I actually liked the Garrard signing. I didn't want to bank on him being the only potential competition to Sanchez though. Signing Kolb on top of Garrard doesn't put all our eggs into one basket, and creates real competition. makes sense. There is a distinct possibility all 3 QB's end up sucking, but we absolutely have to try something.
My only reservation with Kolb is if Arizona's OL put him into Carr-shock. If that's the case, he's done...if not he's a good addition to the QB competition.
If the Jets do sign Kolb, there's not a chance Mark Sanchez beats him out in TC. The guys has a familiarity with the offensive system being put in place and a skill level that translates to it. He's not great by any means but he doesn't have to be to beat out Mark. If he's smart he will sign right away, as in today, with the Jets. It's his best opportunity to start. If the Jets are smart they will give him a one year deal. A contract similar to Matt Cassell's - 1 year : 4 Million. Then they aren't out anything. If he overachieves that's great and they can make a decision to keep him. If he falls on his face - then they can move on from him, cut Sanchez and draft a QB next year.
The only reason to sign Kolb is because Morningwig believes he has the potential to be a franchise QB. If that's the case you sign him and hand him the job. Gerrard becomes his backup.
I'm not down on other QBs, I'm down on the idea of building around guys who have been passed around like a cheap hooker. MM has succeeded with several QBs, not just Kolb. If the Eagles felt he was a franchise QB who could be the future of their team, they would've signed him to a multi-year deal rather than trading while the market for Kolb was hot. They maximized on an opportunity rather than look at him as the future of their organization. The Cardinals on the other hand thought they were getting their answer at QB. Two years of that and they released him. Clearly what they thought when they acquired him doesn't add up to what they thought when they let him go. Again, if Kolb was that good and had that much talent, he'd be locked up long term, not a free agent. I know the guy can play, but I question to what capacity. Many here have pointed to his stats, but those stats are over a very short period of time. Two teams have already moved on for Kolb. Kolb will be a career journeyman. I advocate building through the draft, and the new franchise QB is no exception. The benefit of signing veteran QBs is that they give you the freedom to draft a QB and not start them immediately. The Jets mishandled the drafting of Sanchez immediately, basically handing him the job, anointing him the one, then not bothering to build around him. The Jets will hopefully learn from this with the next highly rated QB prospect they draft by forcing them sit and learn until they are ready / earn the starting QB job. The Jets rebuilding will be a long process. No free agent QB is going to be a silver bullet for a championship. In the end, the starting QB of the Jets next year is pretty irrelevant. It is highly unlikely the Jets will be competitive enough to make the playoffs. Whoever the Jets sign is there to guide them through the year, nothing more. Kolb, Garrard, Sanchez, Tebow, McElroy, Vinny Testaverde, Jeff George, Danny Wuerfel, it doesn't really matter. The draft is where the future of this organization is. Our franchise QB is not in the NFL yet. I know you have a personal hatred for Mark Sanchez and want to see him gone at any cost. It's not about Sanchez anymore, he's here but won't be for very long.
We already know what all 3 of these guys are Sanchez,Garrard,Kolb, and what they are capable of . The whole idea of a "QB Competition" between these guys is a joke. Either draft a QB this year or next year... It wont matter witch of them is the QB when we have zero weapons on offense except Holmes and sometimes Kerly. It seems to me Idzik is putting to much stock into who he "Might Draft" if they are on the board still
Why should the Jets have sat him? Plenty of QB's come into the league and start from day one and are successful. Mark Sanchez sucks because Mark Sanchez sucks, not because he was somehow mishandled.
Sign him now! Mm is just not willing to say sanchez is good when he sees the film and sees how bad he sucks. Unlike some jets fans still touting him as the future.
Just a question... do you really think Kolb and MM have the relationship that it's being made out to be? I mean, he was sent off in favor of Vick which I get is a business move, but I feel like there could be some resentment there from Kolb. All that being said, I hope we sign him.
How about having only one seasons worth of actual playing experience? Thats a damn good reason to let him learn first. Some QBs do succeed from day one, but many others failed. You're not going to suggest that success or failure is solely based around the individual? The NFL is a team sport. Everyone has a part in success and failure.
Kolb is an instant upgrade at QB. If they sign him and with the recent signing of Garrard I bet they have an offer for Sanchez maybe Oakland.
Kolb had a concussion, Vick ended up having his best season ever that year, so it made sense for Kolb to be traded. I doubt he's bitter.
Yes, or a damn good reason not to draft him. I will agree that a QB's success is governed by what's around him. But there is also an individual aspect to it. I do think some QB's have 'it' and some do not. In Mark's particular circumstance he had a great team around him in 2009 and 2010 and a decent one in 2011.
We added a vet QB, who by all accounts was winning the Miami Job last year, for 1.1 mill. He is a good, cheap QB if healthy, or at least good enough to pressure Sanchez. Kolb would be a nice signing for us, lets hope the dollars work out.
Sanchez sucks because he sucks, but he was ABSOLUTELY mishandled by this team. He never had a good Qb coach, he didn't have good players around him and the run game and OLine got worse each year that Sanchez played. I absolutely don't think he should start again, but I blame the Jets organization as much as I blame Sanchez for his failures.
i don't understand this post at all. draft a QB next year you say....ok but what about this year? do nothing, have no competition at all, and have a high likelihood of repeating last year's horrendous offense? Should we just call off the draft and the 2013 season now due to lack of weapons? you are coming off a bit whiny.
We also got to the AFC championship game in 2009 and 2010, and that wasn't in spite of Sanchez. Sanchez has over a 90 QB rating in the playoffs and 4 road wins. How many other horrible QBs can you name that can say that? Ever? In the history of the NFL? Its very posh to hate Sanchez right now but he's extremely talented. The Jets drafted him to be the guy and then built around defense. All of the offensive development has come through bandaids and random pickings here and there, almost none of which have really been worth it. The Jets have depended on extremely talented veterans to get them by, but at some point that was going to stop and it did... guess what, now we're at where we're at. Sanchez individually hasn't been able to put it together, but from my point of view that has as much if not more to do with the way the Jets have managed him than through any lack of effort or talent on his part.
I dont want Kolb at all..,. He was terrible in Arizona and I think Garrard would beat him out if he came here... I think we let Mcilroy or a new draftee to come in and compete... i would rather pick up EJ Manuel in a later round and let him develop
