Steve Young explained it better. The talent around Sanchez was poor last year, but Sanchez still accelerated/highlighted the negatives of the Jets offense which is on him. There were plenty of plays you can blame on the OL, WR, etc but there are plenty of plays where you can point straight at Sanchez
How many other QBs won 30 in their first three years, other than Sanchez, in the history of the NFL. Answer. 4. He is number 5. I know it was all the rest of the team. But if that's your answer to his success, how does the I jury plagued skill positions not garner him slack for 2012?
Steve young has zero room to talk. At Sanchez point on his career, he was riding pine in Tampon Bay. Then he got shipped to SF, where he had Bill Walsh, not Brian Schotenheomer as a tutor for three more years, before he saw the field. Steve young didn't sniff success, till he was installed on a team whose core had won Super bowls.
So that means he can't analyze what is happening on tape? I guess that sort of thing is reserved for Hobbes reviewing the week 1 game vs. Buffalo ...
He should have been back last year but NOT with a new contract and a big raise. However even Tannenbaum was smart enough to try hell to get Manning. If they had Sanchez would have been gone last year and all of this would be moot now.
Well instead of talking about Young's analysis, you go after Young as a QB, not as analyst. That usually means you don't have an argument to the actual point made. And using your logic about Young and room to talk, why are there football forums? None of us can talk about coaching, we haven't been NFL head coaches. GMs, nope nobody can talk. NFL starter, nope nobody. Owner of an NFL team, nobody okay can't talk about that.
No, my point about Young, is a little honesty goes a long way. His first 4 years in e NFL, his completion percentage was worse than Sanchez. It would be fair for him to make that point, had he addressed the coaching component that turned his career around. As Ana alyst, he knows he did not p,ay up to his ability, until he was coached by the greatest offensive mind since Paul Brown. But he chose to simply attack the other player. It's also fair to point out, as far as rank dishonesty, prior to Tampa bay, he had a full career at BYU, and played in the USFL. Blaming Sanchez, especially in 2012 without diagnosing things from his own personal experience, makes him a dick.
Our #3 ranked D was up and down, and our #4 ranked rushing offense was average, but Mark who was ranked 27th was top 10? hmy: You sure live in some weird kind of fantasy land. Mark was part of the reason why we lost to the Colts and to Pittsburgh, but Mark has NEVER been THE reason we won a playoff game.
but what about Boomer then? whose opinion you just propped up... Should we look at his playing career?
he brought us back numerous times, it was the pass O that won the majority of our games in 2010. Mark was way down the lost why we lost to Indy and Pitt. He has never been THE reason we won but he's been a big part of EVERY playoff win.
You are sure why? He was progressing at a rate he should have until the Jets pulled the wrong from underneath him. He regressed because of bad coaching a really bad talent. Look when the team was stacked he was still not great argument is BS. When the team was stacked Mark was Raw rookie and progressing second year player and still took his team deep in the playoffs. Then the Jets decided that he was fully developed why in the hell would they think that? Even he was you don't take away the players he was developing Chemistry with. You take away Edwards, Cotch and Smith and replace them with Mason and Plax really? Brady loses Welker they replace him with a young player that may be better and the two best TE in the league they don't go sign scrubs for Brady. Smae for Manning same for Brees same for any QB. You surround the guy with Talent and help him develop into confident young QB. This is why Tanny is fired it was the worst development of a rising star QB in the history of the NFL. That is why I am willing to give Sanchez one more chance with a good OC and at least better talent. I would also not put all my eggs in the Sanchez basket and we have not. Sanchez not stepping up also puts this franchise in a bind is why I am also willing to give him another chance.
We can't blame Sanchez for anything in 2012? Young acknowledged and said the components around Sanchez were terrible, but Sanchez just accelerated th downward trend of the Jets which is accurate. It's not like you could see Sanchez playing very well and the receivers letting him down. There were plenty of times he let the receivers down, let his team down. It was overall failure in 2012 and Sanchez doesn't get a pass for that, he gets blame, and he gets blame for things he specifically controls like ball security and decision making
Here's the thing, when is the better talent going to come? I don't understand that idea, "let's wait until the talent level is back there." We are so far off from a great run game/OL plus great ST and D overall. If we wait for all of that to come back, it's a long wait. He has this offseason and next year, and that's it to prove himself. Our talent level is going to be low overall next year too. Sanchez gets a shot to compete for the job, but he shouldn't be handed the job, he shouldn't be given the #1 spot on the depth spot, and he should have a very short leash. All of this because his contract keeps him on this team.
and how many of them had a butt fumble that was voted worse play of the year in any sport? 1 Sancho. His is a bum, period.
Downward trend? They won six with absolute shit, and an OC that EvenWesthoff pointed out. The guy was 2 completes a game away from 60%. Throwing to HS JV skill players most of the season. hmmmm.
Please. He ran into a guy he droped the ball. Its not like the infamous Bubby Brister Shovel pass. Why was he running the ball up the middle? Was that a designed QB draw or shit protection? All QBs and many other players have a bad moment. Is Holmes a bum too Rico, for making a Td Handoff to a Niners player? Get a grip. And Fwiw...Holmes play was far worse than Sanchez.
Or...you just happen to agree with his opinion on Sanchez and nothing else matters. By the way, when did he have this opinion? On the Boomer and Carton Show I don't remember him ever being that forgiving to Sanchez's struggles.
The kid threw 3 picks against AZ that caused him to get benched. Threw 4 picks in a must win, 1 possession game against TEN. Threw countless RZ interceptions. Had only 3 games all year where he threw for more TDs than INTs. Sanchez's best games on the season were when we asked him to throw the ball 18 and 20 times and said "don't do anything to mess this up". Twice on 3rd down in the RZ against STL, the Jets took the ball out of Sanchez's hands and ran the ball for TDs. We had to play around him for part of the season, that's how you cause a downward trend. It's more than just Mark Sanchez's fault. We all agree on that. But not blaming Sanchez at all is confusing. He deserves part of the blame for the whole offense, and a lot of blame for why he regressed to his rookie year stats. Some things fall at his feet for why he struggled last year. It was terrifying to see him repeat his rookie year stats. Some of that falls on the talent, some of it falls on him for doing stupid things and struggling on the field with the simple things.
