1. I think the trouble with trading for Darrelle Revis at any time before October is mind-bogglingly simple: How can a team trade for Revis when it doesn't know how healthy he is coming back from ACL surgery, and when it doesn't know what it's going to take to get him signed long-term? If the Jets trade him during the early days of the new league year, which begins Tuesday, they'll be dealing him having no idea what his true value is. And his true value won't be known, really, until teams see him play in August and September. 2. I think, still, the best thing for the Jets to do with Revis is to sign him long- term. And I understand the reasoning of smart people like Parcells and Polian, who say they wouldn't pay a corner so much money. But if I'm sure by Labor Day that Revis is still Revis, I do everything in my power to sign him. 3. I think, however, that I will never own the Jets, and the man who does, Woody Johnson, has it in his head that he'll never reach a fair deal with Revis, and so wants him gone.
According to Adam Shefter he says people around the NFL will be shocked if the Jets get a first round pick for Revis. Witch would be horrible if we traded him and only got a secound rounder , if thats the case we might as well let him play out this year and see what next year brings , if he walks he walks , trading him for a second round pick would be a joke
Faulty reasoning on the first two points. 1. Revis value is down no matter what due to the contract at this point. The Jets aren't looking to get full value out of him as if he was signed and healthy and they won't get that. What they will get if they make a move is more cap space in 2014 and beyond and a couple of pieces to help the rebuild. 2. If Polian and Parcells agree on something the odds are pretty good that they're right. As a Pats fan I'm sure Peter King would love for the Jets to cripple their cap moving forward. 3. Yep. Woody has been burned twice by negotiating with Revis. There's no way he's going to get burned again. The second holdout lead to Revis playing at half speed for half a season and then he missed most of the second season after that. Woody has paid approximately $40M to Revis to date for the 34 games Revis has played since the holdout in 2010. I don't think he's going to sign up for more of that at this point.
It would be hard to get a 1st for him this offseason due to the ACL injury and then the fact that whatever team trades for him will have to make him one of the top 5 paid players in the league. Jets may try to trade him to at least get something, but reports say he wants to stay in NY so who knows?
would it be a reach saying we could probably get a first for Cromartie? Seattle got Harvin for a 1 and he only played 9 games. maybe Minn gives up one of there 1's?
If all we can get is a 2 and we get a compensatory 3d if we keep him & he walks, keeping him for the season is a no-brainer. Think of it as a season of Revis for the difference between a 2d & a 3d.
Getting an early 2nd in 2013 instead of a sandwich pick after the 3rd round in 2015 is a huge difference. It's two years earlier and a magnitude of value higher. Also we're not guaranteed a comp pick for Revis if he leaves. We're not going to lose a lot of veteran free agents in 2014 aside from Revis. My guess is the Jets will however have a lot of people in for competition in 2014 and any of the vets we bring in who win a job will count against us being compensated for free agents we lose. As an example on free agents and compensation: All other things being equal, if you lose Darrelle Revis to somebody and he starts 16 games and you sign Yeremiah Bell and he starts 16 games you get no compensation. You lost a 16 game starter and you gained one in free agency.
This.......as well as.... I'm of the opinion that if we do not get a 1st for Revis, among other parameters of a package, then you simply let him play out his contract and deal with it in 2014. Revis has not helped himself build any good will with the way he has handled the two previous negotiating sessions. I keep reading about how the Jets haven't included his agents or him in any udates etc... Boo hoo... His agents are dicks and I would let them sit and stew up until the moment they NEED to know something. I do NOT feel sorry for the Revis camp at all. In fact, if I were the Jets, personally, I'd go into the season with him as is...see how he plays and do a mid-season negotiation. It's been done before and can be done again. That is if they do not get what they are looking for as far as a trade.
My god, people need to realize that if we keep Revis this year we incur a $9 million cap hit of dead money in 2014. He needs to be traded next year. With a couple good draft classes we can compete in 2014 and we need that money for flexibility.
3 round compensatory is basically the last pick in the 3rd round. There's a huge difference in quality of prospect between a random 2nd rounder & round 3 compensatory. Mid-2nd rounder has a very good chance of walking in and starting. Or getting a good number of snaps. You've really got to nail the pick to expect the same thing from a 3 round compensatory pick.
But "you do not trade your best player!"----Gary Myers, and numerous others. I do not understand this argument. Because whenever anyone says it they do not say why. They just expect you to accept it as gospel. The only time i would agree with this is if my best player was an All-Pro QB. No other position gets you to the big game. And CB is not second on this list. I like your line about Parcells and Polian. I keep scouring the rosters of SB winners and I do not see a Darelle Revis among them, or a Darelle Revis clone. You need good players and good depth to reach The Show. Not one guy who shuts down one guy.
Your cap knowledge is impressive. You must be one of those guys who reads insurance policies for his own amusement.
Peter King is right. If the Jets trade Revis now, they will get a cap hit of an additional $3mil this year. A move like that is basicallly writing off the 13 season. Signing Garrard as so-called competition to Sanchez is just another indication they seem to be giving up on not only 13 but 14 as well. IF they trade Revis now, I will be surprised to see them get more than a second round pick. Might as well keep him and see if they can sign him to a long range extension after they see if he can regain most or all the ground from the acl injury. that move has the most upside.
Peter King @SI_PeterKing Feel like I'm watching a car crash seconds away from happening. Powerless to do anything about it. http://nydn.us/10AlqTr Peter King @SI_PeterKing RT @RKarpusiewicz: Makes me sad to be a jet fan. Can this franchise do anything right? ... Good question.
