Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Now, that's a valid point....and I would say on the other side of the coin, if you could get him to perform at or near his peak performances CONSISTENTLY...key word...he would be at the very least on the verge...
     
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    At what point do you feel he should be consistent. It has been 4 years, so is it 5 years, 10 years, 15 years? At this point in his career, don't you think he should be able to put the ball on the receiver on a consistent basis?
     
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    I am sure if all these Sanchez haters would send Marty the stats they like to spew he would not say anything good about Sanchez. You know MM has never coached football before and never had any success with QBs.

    Who does this guy think he is how can he know more about football than the people that post on this forum. Shoot Brad, Big Blocker and others they know way more than MM and Idzik why were they not considered for the OC and GM position?

    Sanchez is getting a shot this has not changed and to bitch every time a coach says something positive about Sanchez is just old.
     
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    Qb is a tough position it takes time. Cam cam out of the gates strong than struggled.

    Rich Gannon
    Jim Plunkett
    Steve Young
    Terry Bradshaw
    Troy Aikmen
    Aaron Rogers
    Brad Johnson
    Eli Manning
    Kurt Warner

    This is just off the top of my head of Qbs that had a rough start some with a lot better situations than Sanchez.

    How long does he get well I think that is pretty obvious. There is not one poster that says he gets more than this year. He gets one more chance to take a step up. It helps a lot to take a step up with some weapons and an OC.
     
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    I meant just hitting the receiver, you know with out throwing behind him, too tall, bouncing, etc.
     
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    Do you really believe that Marty is saying that he will be the starting QB next season? Free Agency hasn't even started, let alone the draft, or any training activities.
     
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    You have know idea what it even takes to make an accurate throw. Sanchez throws the ball pretty accurately than is not his problem. His problem is turning the ball over.
     
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    :eek:hmy: .......
     
  10. laxin

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    Yeah, he's played at a high level, but never for more than a stretch of a game or two or maybe three... He's never consistently played at a high level. Thats his problem. Thats what separates Mark Sanchez and Carson Palmer from Tom Brady and Drew Brees. Any QB in the NFL can have play at a high level, especially one taken in the top 5. They are taken their because they have the tools. What truly matters is if they can actually use those tools consistently.

    At this point in his career, those "high level of play" games are few and far between. As much as he's played at a high level, he's played at a horrible level.



    Also, what do you honestly want MM to say? MarK Sanchez has sucked these last two years and its my job to repair him fundamentally and mentally? Yeah, that would look good. Or that Sanchez doesnt have a leg up in the competition even though he's being paid like a top 10 QB?

    Just because MM came spoke about the offense and didnt say "Mark Sanchez sucks" it doesnt means that the 90% of Jets fans that no longer believe in him are wrong. How about when Rex fed us the same bullshit last year, or when Sparano walked into this offense- did he say he sucked? How'd last year turn out for him?

    We will truly see what this franchise thinks about him when he hits adversity next season and when he struggles. Maybe they'll draft a QB in the draft, maybe they are waiting until the following year... Who knows. But once he starts getting booed and starts turning the ball over we will see what really happens.
     
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    You mean when he accurately throws the ball to those guys on the other team? Sanchez has never been one of the league's accurate passers. Even when he was a "top 10" NFL QB.
     
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    Sanchez is a rhythm passer. OC has got his work cut out for him.

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  13. cval

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    I think Marty is saying and seeing what rational headed people think. Sanchez is not as nearly as bad as some make him out to be(I am sure Marty is reviewing the tape) and the QBs available in in free Agency and the draft are very unlikely to be better than Mark.

    If you think Garrard (who has been injured for two years) or Quinn or Cassell or Grossman or whatever Jag QB we bring in is going to be any better than what we are getting Mark you are delusional. We may get lucky in the draft but unless that QB has played in the WC offense in college he will not be better than Mark.

    Sanchez show flashes he just thinks he is Brett Favre at times and does not know when to say the play is over.

    He maybe shot but I am not willing to run him out of town for another QB that is just as bad or worse because his name is not Sanchez. If he is thrives in MM offense the Jets are much better off than him sucking. He lead us to two AFCC championship games on the road and made some big plays playing within himself.

    I am hoping with better coaching and some weapons that is the Sanchez we get next season. If not your Jag will play and we will again be searching for our "Franchise" QB. Getting rid of O'Brien for Nagle or O'Donnell is not appealing to me.
     
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    No question lets hope Sanchez responds. We are SOL if he dos not.
     
  15. Br4d

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    This is how these QB's made it.

    Rich Gannon - Third team after the Vikings and Chiefs gave up.
    Jim Plunkett - Second team with one of the most loaded teams in Oakland.
    Steve Young - Backed up an all-time great in SF after Tampa traded him.
    Terry Bradshaw - The most loaded team in NFL history on both sides of the ball.
    Troy Aikman - Pro bowler in his 3rd season for 6 years running after that. Loaded team.
    Aaron Rogers - Backed up an all-time great in GB. Pro Bowler in his 2nd season as starter and All-Pro in his 4th.
    Brad Johnson - This is a weird comparison, does not belong. 9th round pick who played for 5 teams.
    Eli Manning - The closest of all the above and he won a Super Bowl in his 4th season. Was considered the best QB prospect coming out of Miss since his brother in '98. Was completely on a different level from Sanchez entering the NFL - seen as the best QB in a deep and talented class.
    Kurt Warner - Another weird comparison as a UDFA.

    None of those guys is a good comparison for Sanchez. In many of the cases it's like using Barry Sanders as a comparison for Roger Vick.
     
  16. feldspar

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    Throwing a screen pass successfully...WOW, Sanchez brought us back from behind! What a clutch guy!
     
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    The point is it takes a while to become Qb the more talent around you the quicker the jump can be made. Sanchez is 26 one more shot makes sense.
     
  18. Br4d

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    Why does one more shot makes sense?

    After his chaotic rookie year, which was very much excusable by the circumstances, he's had three more chances already to show that he's a superior QB. All he's established in those opportunities is that he is without doubt unable to raise the level of his team mates performances to an acceptable level. When the Jets had a talent overload he was fine but as soon as that went away he started to struggle and by last year he was a walking disaster area.

    We don't need to see one more shot. We've seen enough of him already to know that a good QB isn't lurking in there waiting to come out. If the Jets had talent overload again would Sanchez be acceptable? Probably. But they don't and there's no point in keeping him around waiting for a team to assemble around him that he can win with. Better to go find a QB who can raise the play of his team mates so that when he gets talent overload around him we win 14 games instead of 10 and have a real shot at a Super Bowl.
     
  19. mr nyjet

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    the only thing he has is a butt up guard brandon moore.

    announce that either tebow, garrard, or mcelroy is the starter as of now,

    and that will only change if he gets beat out in camp and preseason.

    coddling the turnover machine again accomplishes nothing!:eek:fftopic:
     
  20. mr nyjet

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    he's not paid to throw accurately to the OTHER team..........:eek:hmy:
     
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