Ryan also has always had at least one superstar on his defensive backfield - Ed Reed in Baltimore and Darrelle Revis in NY. Take away Revis and Rex Ryan would be without a superstar in the D backfield and without a superstar on the defense in general. This is when Rex Ryan's defenses will look less like the Rex Ryan defenses were used to and more like the defenses of his brother. The guy is a good defensive mind, but he doesn't walk on water. He can't make lemonade out of shit.
They aren't mutually exclusive propositions. The Patriots could pay someone Top 11 Player money and it could still be foolish to pay big money to anyone other than a QB.
Are you talking about Mark Sanchez or your afternoon snack? If you are talking about Mark Sanchez, he's the second worst starting QB in the league last year just slightly ahead of that embarrassment in Arizona. Unfortunately the NYJ didn't get to play against him too, but if they did he'd certainly be on that list. Not sure how that is relevant to the discussion though.
that makes no sense, if the argument is that the Pats have been a well run team and that the Jets should follow their lead. The fact is the Pats had Tom Brady on the roster and were able to extend Wilfork one of the biggest contracts in the NFL, and since then have signed a big deal with Brady while Wilfork's contract is still in effect.
Actually, they didn't sign Brady to a "big deal" - they signed Brady to a mediocre deal where he took far less money than he was worth on the free market in order to free up money for others.
That's what happens when you have a ton of money tied up in the worst QB in the league - Surprise! - welcome to the conversation. They had the 6th best defense in the league last year (yards per play). I'm willing to acknowledge that it's skewed because so many teams ran on us in the second half of games because of games being out of control. But any way you look at it, they had an above average defense. And their best player was Cromartie - Ryan built a good defense out of crap.
You are obviously misinformed. Learn your facts before you come here and talk when you should listen. "First, the two-time NFL Most Valuable Player, despite some perceptions, did not really take a pay cut with this new deal. It might have sounded that way with salaries of $7 million in 2015, $8 million the next year and $9 million in 2017, far below the going rate for superstar QBs. Instead, Brady gets a $30 million signing bonus, payable over the next three years, and $57 million overall in a contract that will run through the 2017 season, when he will be 40 years old. Other than backups who are little more than insurance policies, how many quarterbacks even make it on to a roster at 40? Essentially, he gets $33 million guaranteed for the next two seasons " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/tom-brady-contract-patriots-extension_n_2771387.html
Bullshit. There were 3 starters in Az. And if you're saying that Henne,freeman,Gabbert, Bradford, Moore or Flynn would be an upgrade that's either delusional, or irrational discontent.
He could have got anything he asked for - easily $20+ million (and probably $25 million if he was willing to change teams). He took $17 million - that's a mediocre deal for a first ballot Hall of Fame QB with no injury concerns.
The point of the discussion which you have completely lost track of is not how much money Brady might have gotten. The relevance is that $17 mil is a decent chunk of money. and btw is more than the most inflated guesses of what Revis might want. I don't know what point you are trying to make. Neither do you. Based on last year's rankings, $17mil would have made Brady the fourth highest paid player in the league last year (salary plus prorated signing bonus). http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-highest-paid-players-in-the-nfl-2012-9?op=1 Add in that there are easily achievable guarantees and that they carry Brady to being 40 years old, and it is nonsense to suggest his is significantly below market. He was not a free agent, either, so comparing his deal to FA signings is apples and oranges. But once again the point is that the Pats were able to give Wilfork a big deal and still have room for Tom Brady.
... who took a below market rate deal. And your entire argument presumes the Patriots are well run in their personnel department. I think they are the best coached team in the league, but their personnel moves have been shitty the entire time Belichick has been there. They lucked into a HOF QB in the 6th round. Other than that, they have been terrible. They draft poorly and their free agent signings have been mediocre. Their personnel is not anywhere near the best in the league.
taht is not my argument at all. I was arguing against Brad who was saying a well run team.... Oh forget it. Life is too short to have to explain what this thread was about until you came in like a small child not knowing what the adults were talking about.
