49ers gearing up for Revis?

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  1. AlmightyRevis

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    Was referring to the radio personality, but yes love Revis too...I love the sport of football and he is an artist out there on a level that few Jets have been before
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Revis straight upmtomthe Eagles, for the four. Allowing you to pick Jordan.

    And a conditional three that escalates to a two next year....

    In or out?
     
  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    ^ in. no hesitation except i am taking geno smith

    flame away
     
  4. usc1978

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    I would hope the deal was accepted before they even allowed the Eagles to get to the part about the conditional second pick.
     
  5. ajax

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    If the draft was that easy to predict then we wouldn't see so many teams bungling it up every year. Did you see a franchise QB coming in the draft when Brady was drafted? how about the draft where Rodgers was drafted?

    Get out of here with that nonsense.
     
  6. Ben Had

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    No team is going to give up more than a secound for revis now. His injury is too much of a gamble and why not just wait till next year and he comes for nothing.
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The reason for the contenders not to wait is that they're contenders.

    You think the 49ers wouldn't jump through hoops right now to draft Darrelle Revis somehow when their window is so wide open and CB was the weakness last year?

    News flash: paying draft picks for Darrelle Revis has the same effect on their chances next year that drafting him would. The effect on the cap is much different of course but the cap doesn't play for you on the field, the players you have under contract do. For 2013 the 49ers won't get it any better than having Revis on the field for them as they make the third year in their run.

    Most teams that are going to win Super Bowls under a coach do it by the third year or fourth at the outside. Then things settle in and they keep missing and then the cap catches up to them and then the window slams shut without them ever getting through it.
     
  8. Jake

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    Aw apparently Darrelle wants to stay a Jet.
     
  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He's always had control of that if he really wants it.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    I have no idea what your point is about Woody and drafting players.

    The Colts went from the worst team in the league to a playoff team in one season. Do you even follow football? Do you? You didn't know that?

    One player, and they were a contender.

    Sure the Jets have some issues. But before going down your list, if the Jets had a good Qb instead of Muck, that right there would be good for four games. Sanchez is that bad.

    The D last year had some issues, but with Revis back Ryan could go back to juggling the coverages. Wilk and Coples are up and comers on the line. I am not a big Harris fan, and Davis is a question mark, but I would use a high pick at LB, and with Revis and Cro holding down the D, the Jets could again have a top five D next year. With Holmes back, Kerley getting better, and some help at RB, the departure of Keller is not such a big deal. I think Cumberland has some upside.

    In any event I did not say the Jets will be super bowl bound next year even if Revis comes back. But in 14, with a new Qb, improvement at wideout, and some shoring up here and there, the Jets could certainly be a contender.
     
  11. Big Blocker

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    that argument cuts both ways. If you are right, why can't the Jets pay him $13mil?

    There is no earthly reason I can think of why the Jets cannot pay Revis as much as the market rate is for him. After 13 the Jets' cap problems are greatly reduced.

    Ftr I do not agree this is about Woody being cheap. It is about Woody not knowing shit about football and not making wise decisions when it comes to spending money.

    Not even trying to reach a deal with Revis reminds me of the Kendall situation. They are motivated by personal, emotional reasons, rather than football reasons. They have a pattern of that, and we have to conclude it starts with Woody.
     
  12. Big Blocker

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    If the Jets want Revis to stay, they can do that deal by paying him what he is worth.

    You keep posting as if this is all on Revis. There are two sides to this issue, and for all the complaints you have made about the Jets FO over the last few years, suddenly when it comes to Revis you do not even consider whether they are part of the problem.

    I guess it has to do with your ridiculous theory that Cb is an unimportant position. Funny, the logic of the Niners going after him, which you seem to think is a great idea, is that they lost the SB because of mediocre cornerback play (which they did).

    You are not making sense.
     
  13. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    What Revis is worth and what Revis wants are two different things.
     
  14. TurkJetFan

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    If you don't understand my point about Woody maybe read what you yourself wrote and you might follow.

    The Colts and Jets are not comparable. The Colts lost their franchise HOF QB and were surrounded by relatively young unpolished talent with a few carry over vets. The Jets are not comparable. We will not have an Andrew Luck and we have HUGE holes to fill with limited cap space. If you follow football at all you'd know the Colts rebound was a perfect storm and not a benchmark for how these things work.

    Sanchez is that bad. But 2013 roster situation is not going to be the same as 2012 so again, not comparable. You can keep looking at 2012 but I'd rather move on to 2013.

    IF Revis comes back. Point is this isn't Madden. Real people and influencers are involved. In a perfect world Revis will come back to the Jets on an affordable deal. In reality, he will likely run for the hills to the highest bidder and leave the Jets in the dust given their negotiation history. In the past it's been holdouts but Revis was UNDER contract. Not under contract and all indicators point to the Jets getting burned.

    You talk about improvement at wideout. Does this include Holmes? Do you really believe Hill will move forward that greatly in that short of a timeframe? How can we fill our overall roster holes in 1 year given our cap situation with a normal # of picks. Working with what we have we are looking at 2015 before we are back on the ball assuming we keep Revis. In an ideal world yes you are right. But it's not reality.
     
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  15. Hobbes3259

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    6 mil for one year, and another shot at a VLT, for draft picks you can't fit on the roster makes sense.

    North of 7 mil a year for a CB does not.

    Nor does letting him sit on our roster with a phantom Hamstring issue this year.

    Everyone says he needs to prove he's healthy that's crap. He can do that in private workouts during Free Agency.
     
  16. Donttasemebro

    Donttasemebro Well-Known Member

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    49ers reporting no real interest...falcons unable to sign him even if they wanted to.

    Starting to think Reg Dunlop has taken a front office position with the jets.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    And now Revis knows, there is no market for a CB that wants crazy $$$$
     
  18. Big Blocker

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    I want my boss to walk in here today and give me all the profits of the company.

    But if he doesn't, I will probably stay here at my current salary.

    THe point is Revis knows that what he will end up getting paid is what the market says he's worth, not what number comes to him in his dreams.

    The last time he signed a contract, did he get every penny he wanted? No. This time will be no different.
     
  19. TurkJetFan

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    Except this time he can negotiate with any team that he'd like that engages with him as a UFA....Why do you have this odd thought that he won't do that and go to a team offering comparable/same/if not more money who are more in a position to win? The last time he signed a contract he was under contract and the Jets were a good team in a position to make a run.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    So you can't explain your "point" about Woody and the draft. Fine with me.

    The point about the Colts is that changing out a key player here or there can make a huge difference in the NFL. You also missed my point being about a changeover taking place over two years, not one. Anyone reading my previous post fairly would acknowledge I did not say the Jets are likely to replicate the Colts' 2012 season. But can the Jets be a contender in 2014? Of course they can.

    The highest bidder... If some other team values Revis at a certain number, that means they are idiots? If not, then why can't the Jets pay Revis what he is worth?

    The Jets after all have some leverage, that being his low 2013 salary, which can be a bargaining chip. Revis also knows he is playing in a D that is designed and built around him, and to a lesser extent Cro. There are good reasons for him to want to stay here.

    But the key is the JEts are not even trying to see what kind of deal they can reach with Revis. That is just plain stupid.
     

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