Ah, okay, I misunderstood. I don't consider that a hometown discount, I just see it as negotiating with him while his leverage is lower than normal. I think it would be great if we brought Revis to the negotiating table, said we wanted him to retire a Jet and that we'd give him a big contract for a guy coming off a torn ACL. The problem is that if Revis signs a deal at less than his non-injured market value, I'm sure the team would be concerned over another holdout. I absolutely believe that the first step should have been trying to lock Revis up with a new deal. Unfortunately, we're going to have to trade him for pennies on the dollar.
Today is one I find myself in total agreement with one of your posts, Barcs. Heh, break out the party hats and noisemakers. But seriously, I don't get the posters here who think the Jets will be much better off with a trade for picks than keeping Revis at a reasonable rate. I would peg that at no more than $13mil, and concede I do not know that would be enough to keep him, and of course there would be issues like guaranteed money, length, incentives, no holdout clauses, etc., that are all wild variables at this point. But let's say a reasonable deal at $13 mil, I think would be enough to keep Revis. At taht price, I would keep the bird in the hand rather than gamble on draft picks. The Jets could as easily use those picks and end up with two kyle Wilsons in the backfield, and another VD rotting on the bench backing up Slauson.
No point here, at this time, given what might happen, in fantasizing about how a contract could be put together that would be fair to both sides. But there are ways to get around the uncertainty of his physical condition.
Couple things on Crabtree... Yes, they are gonna pay him. He was never a bust. He came in late as a rookie and had a pretty damn impressive year considering he had zero camp, was coming off and injury, and missed the first 5 or 6 weeks. he still started his very first game. His numbers are really indicative of Alex Smith. I don't mean to berate him as I actually like him and would liked to have kept him as a backup. His biggest flaw tho is that he's TOO cautious with the ball. He won't throw unless he's sure. Sometimes that means he doesnt throw at all, sometimes he's checking down, and sometimes he throws late and the WR is getting nailed as the ball arrives. Still...his number improved every year despite having issues with that broken foot again before last year. The guy has LONG arms and GREAT hands. He's the only guy who has had no problem holding onto Kaeps fastballs. I can really sum it up linke this... Prior to week 11 of this year, he had 4 career 100 yard games. Week 11 is when Kaep took over. In his past 8 games (including playoffs) he's been over 100 5 times including 172 vs the Cards. Crabtree wasn't the problem. As for him getting paid....one offshoot of that lengthy holdout his rookie year is that the 49ers added another year to his contract...so he actually has TWO years left when alot of those first rounders only have 1. If he continues next year tho the way he finished last year...he'll probably get paid after next year.
do you guys think Woody will offer Revis some kind of deal? I know Revis wants a long term deal but a 4 yr/52 mil deal shouldbe sufficient to keep Revis.
According to PFC... Reports: Falcons Interested in Trade for CB Darrelle Revis March 6th, 2013 · No Comments According to multiple reports the Atlanta Falcons are interested in acquiring New York Jets star cornerback Darrelle Revis via trade. The Falcons of course released veteran cornerback Duntal Robinson last week.
ATL loves our sloppy seconds lol. in all seriousness though, I'm against trading him to ATL because wehave to play them this year. I can see it now. 3 INTs 1 returned for a TD.
whats the potential offer you think? 1st and 2nd? ATL would be a great fit for them as they have SB aspirations and we have tanking aspirations
The Colts drafted Andrew Luck...end of story. Nothing guarantees anything but trading Revis for a plethora of picks would absolutely speed up our rebuild in theory rather than keep a guy who will only walk anyway (to the team of his choice mind you, which could be NE, BUFF or MIA for all we know) and get a compensatory 3rd for. All of our picks could be busts, but maybe not. The more a team has the more chance they have of catching good or the next great players. Plus given our abundance of holes around the roster and our cap situation it's the best way to go, allowing us to ideally need to sign less players in FA next year and thereby allowing us to pursue big ticket players rather than a bunch of stop gaps. Trading him likely doesn't make us better today, but the idea is it makes us better tomorrow. Also, the idea of us re-signing him at a reasonable rate is based on nothing. What stops him from just walking out the door and signing with the team of his choice rejecting our reasonable rate? He has done nothing to date to suggest he will consider that unless somehow teams just don't want to sign him.
Evan Roberts rant about Revis Trade http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/d2/dB/d7/d3/12B73_3.MP3 I agree 100% Trading Revis is insanity
I have several problems with this post. First of all, it should be obvious that Revis under a new deal lasting more than just 13 would draw more in the way of compensation than he would as a one year rental. I have seen several suggestions that he might only get a second round pick as a one year rental, and that makes complete sense to me. But why would Revis be any more likely (unless of course he is unhappy, as he well might be, at the way the Jets are "handling" this situation, but putting that aside for now), to sign a reasonable extension with another team than he would be with the Jets? In other words he will not draw much in the way of compensation without a new deal in place, or the promise of one. So why is he more likely to redo his deal with another team than with the Jets? Your position leaves out the scenario of a new deal with the Jets, which of course would eliminate the scenario where he walks next season and the Jets receive only a third round pick in compensation. Also, the more picks the Jets might receive, as you say, may increase the odds of getting better players than fewer picks. But does anyone believe the Jets are likely to get a player as good as Revis? You seem to be taking the opposite lesson of the old saying that a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. What does that saying really mean? Revis is a known quantity. He's still young, and likely has a number of productive seasons ahead of him. Meanwhile the Jets could trade him for picks and get another Kyle Wilson, or Vlad Ducasse. Like I said, I have problems with your position.
Yes, Revis under a new deal would draw more compensation. That is obvious I don't recall saying anything to the contrary. There are 2 scenarios that Revis could be traded under. A 1 year rental which will fetch less, and a scenario where a team has worked out a long term solution. There are a variety of reasons he would sign with another team, which you've already noted. The Jets have dragged this through the mud, and have had notable contractual clashes with him in the past. Not to mention, they aren't close to being legit contendors. So yes, given that he could easily opt to go to a team that both gives him a better chance to win, can build a positive relationship with, and also be paid the same money if not more as the Jets will offer. Not to mention Rex loves Revis. But Rex's future is also uncertain which could hinder his desire to stay here. Is Revis as good as he is because of Rex? Will he get along and be admired by his next coach like his current one? Also factors. It's not as simple as getting a player as good as Revis. It's not a 1 to 1 comparison. If you get 2 draft picks of which 1 turns into a Pro-Bowler at a position of need and the other is a serviceable starter for years, we've plugged 2 holes with an upgrade of talent. Revis is a known commodity. He's entering the peak of his prime but I'm sorry it's not as simple as you make it. Give his injury, given his UFA status after this season, given his past negotiations with the Jets as well as his current situation, we will all be kicking ourselves watching him walk out the door, empty handed. The Jets could trade him for picks and get another Kyle Wilson and Ducasse. But they also may not. What if we end up with a Julio Jones type or Calvin Johnson type? Or what if we nab an Aaron Rodgers type...That statement works both ways. You can have problems with my position all you want. In fact, initially I was all about trading Cro instead but the way things have developed the Jets best team interest is to trade him now. It's not only my position its the position of many others as well, which appears to include that of the Jets front office.
Great stuff. Arguing that trading Darelle Revis, as all you fans who support that idea on okay with, is basically about supporting Woody Johnson in his decision, for whatever facacta reason he's come to it, that he doesn't want to pay Revis what he is worth. No crap about the Jets are not going to win in the next three years, anyway. Nonsense, if they play it right and get a new Qb, they could easily win ten games. And this baloney that you can't win with a shut down corner. Nonsense! I hate this stuff, and the idiocy coming from fans who think Woody Johnson is going to take draft picks for Darrelle Revis and make it a better team than if they kept him. That is complete horse manure. Woody Johnson doesn't know shit about football, so all you clowns out there who agree with him need to reconsider. "I want to do what Woody thinks is right!" Oh brother. We need a new owner, not we need to trade Revis. Trade Woody and keep Revis.
I think it's hilarious that some news reports say the Falcons and 49ers are working on a trade for Revis, and then their beat writers come out and say there's no chance, they haven't discussed it or there;s a .0001 in 10 chance... HAHA
Not close to being legit contenders?????? All they have to do to be a legit contender is get rid of Sanchez and get a middle tier Qb in there!!! Are you serious? Again, I AM concerned the Jets have already screwed their possiblity of dealing with Revis. But it makes no more sense absent that consideration to say let someone else pay him a market rate than that the Jets should.
Appearing on NFL Live Wednesday, ESPN's Ed Werder predicted that the Jets will not get a first-round pick for Darrelle Revis. "I think it's unlikely that the Jets can get a No. 1 pick," said Werder. "I think a lot of teams might consider giving up a (second-round pick) or less. The Jets are dealing from a position of obvious weakness. Two reasons: He's coming off ACL surgery in the final year of his contract. (And) his contract demands really have potential suitors worried the most. Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing." In addition to the 49ers and Falcons, Werder mentioned the Bucs and Lions as potential Revis suitors.
