Most teams do have some cap flexability during the season (didnt the Jets have like 4M this year?). But the reality is, Revis is in the final year of his deal, NEEDS to prove he is healthy (for both his sake and the Jets). This is the only way a team can get Revis without an all out bidding war via FA. It also allows the Jets the ability to recieve ample compensation for their best player. Win, Win really. Still could be a long shot but the approch I would take is 'listen Mevis, we know you dont want to be here, becasue of you're desire to be the highest paid D player. So come back in great shape, prove you canplay at a high level and we will aggressievly try to move you during the season. This is in both of our best interestes, what do you say?"
Not once did the word traitor come out of my mouth I simple stated if That's where he wnts to go then he can we don't need to sit here and feel like we will be under threat every time his contract is about up and if you look at ANY of my posts and All of them contain a legit point or an opinion so I smell crap... and it's Your need to try to make someone with an opinion stupid..... bub.
I understand the logic, I just don't think it's feasable. You are COUNTING on a number of things. 1) A team will carry the cap space. 2) There will be a team willing to give you more during the season than before on a guy who will be a FA after the season. 3) You are counting on him proving he's the same guy in only 4 or 5 weeks. 4) You are counting on that team being willing to pay what he wants in an extension. Thats alot to count on when someone is making you an offer right now for draft picks this year. I'm not saying what you propose is impossible, but thats alot to count on when the risk is getting nothing in return.
1) Yes teams do carry cap space into a year 2) a team that can make a run and is in need of a shut down HEALTHY CB (DR will be able to prove this) will give up comp for him 3) True 4) I look at it as the exclusieve right to negotiate during and after the season as the team has the ability to sign a URFA before FA begins.. It is really the best option for the jets, and revis. What will the JEts get for a Diva CB, comming off injury, on the final year of his deal? He wont even pass a fucking physical before or shortly after the draft.
Again...not saying it's impossible. It's just alot of balls in the air and a risk I dunno if they are willing to take. We'll just have to see. I want him in SF. No question.... ...but I think he'll play out his final year as a Jet and be a FA next year. Thats what happened when the Bills tried to do the same thing with Nate Clements (and yes, Revis is a very different player).
I think people are really downplaying the value of a Revis rental. How often does a major contender get the opportunity to add an all-time great player at one of their weakest positions to the roster for a year without totally blowing up their cap in the process? You almost never see a prime superstar change teams and certainly not one who is cheap on the cap for the year and with no cap downside moving forward. I think you can make an argument that Revis is worth more to the 49ers as a one-year rental than he would be under a 4 year $56M contract.
I really hoped that the trade of Alex Smith made the Niners the team willing to pay a high amount in terms of draft picks, but I didn't consider the salary cap implications. I believe Kaepernick is first eligible for an extension after 2013? As great as Revis is, they're not going to pay even a healthy Revis if if means not being able to keep Kaepernick, Aldon Smith, Novarro Bowman, etc. I really don't see who is going to give up a ton for Revis if not the Niners or at least if not the threat of the Niners.
? Of course he's valuable as a rental, but I don't see any contender, let alone the 49ers, giving up a big trade package for 1 year.
Well Bowman has already been extended, but you are correct in regards to Kaep and Aldon. As for the last line...that's been my point all along.
The Buffalo Bills would have killed to add a player of Revis caliber to their roster for one year just to get a ring. In retrospect it's even worse. 4 years in a row as one of the favorites to win it all and they just couldn't get over the hump. If you guys don't rent Revis for next year and you don't win a ring soon the question is going to haunt you for decades. This is another way of saying that the percentages are that you'll be talking about Revis for decades one way or the other. In that situation getting him for the year is the right answer. At least then you'll know you did everything you could and if it wasn't to be it wasn't to be.
Ah, yeah, I don't keep up on the contracts of other teams too well. I assumed he'd be coming up this offseason or next.
You said back at post 290: He has expressed he likes the 49ers so let him go I'm tired of getting held hostage as a team by a selfish player no matter how good he is trade him get draft picks have a good draft and move on.. You earlier post says it is quite relevant that he said something nice about the Niners. You expressed no regard for the situation the Jets FO has put him in. Your assessment lacks context. Of course if you used punctuation, your thoughts might be less subject to interpretations you may not have intended. Your post at 290 only has meaning if you are saying this new bit of supposed information, that he said something nice about another team, is enough added reason to get rid of him. Of course you did not say traitor. But it meant the same thing. You were saying: "If Revis really wanted to stay with the Jets, he would not have said nothing nice about hte Niners! I wouldn't have wanted the Jets to trade him if he said he only wanted to play on the Jets! But now? F him!" Anyway, the main point is you do not look at the context of what the Jets have and have not been doing, and how that might affect any person in a sutuation like the one the Jets have put Revis in.
Good GMs don't think in such short terms. They understand that even if the ingredients are all there at the beginning of the season, the chances of winning a Super Bowl are pretty low. You are a million times better off designing your team for long term competitiveness, and hoping that one of those years luck will favor you enough to win it all.
Are you implying that the Patriots went all in during the 2007 season, and mortgaged their future to try to win that year, or am I just missing your point? Stallworth was the only free agent pickup that year who was a one year rental, and that wasn't by design. If the Patriots have declined since then, it has more to do with aging defensive veterans, and poor drafting in our attempts to replace them, than any sort of "all-in" attempt.
New guys on the Pats roster in 2007 to try to get over the top: Randy Moss Dante Stallworth Wes Welker Adalius Thomas You guys didn't just go all-in with the best vets money could buy you went whole hog. Damn near worked too.
Okay, I kind of see where you are coming from, but none of those guys were added with the intent of dumping them after a year, which is what you seem to be suggesting the 49ers would be smart to do. Were the Patriots trying to "get over the top"? Yes, especially with regards to revamping our weak WR corps. Were we selling away our future to do so? No. Those guys were intended to be our future. I'm not saying the 49ers would be dumb to trade for Revis. I'm saying they would be dumb to give up a lot of future assets in order to "rent" Revis for a year. If they trade a package to the Jets including multiple high draft choices, they should be at least optimistic that they can entice him to stick around after the season is over.
