Poll: what kind of stats does Sanchize have to put up to remain a Jet after next seas

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  1. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Oh I do understand the game, it's called field position. When your given good field position you take advantage of it. When your in the redzone if you don't put up 7 points it's a failure, especially when a drive STARTS in the redzone after a turn over.

    I understand that when your offense only puts together 2 or 3 decent drives and spends the rest of the day going 3 and out the defense does eventually get tired. I also understand that when your running game puts up 155 yards to your passing games 173 yards it's your running game that's making whatever hay is being made. And don't say it's because the Vikings threw more than the Jets, the Jets had 44 pass attempts to 34 by the Vikings. In fact the Jets ran 12 more pass plays than running plays in the game.

    So guess what Junc, it wasn't Sanchez that carried the team, it was the defense and the running game. Say what you want, claim you understand the game.

    But it's all about field position and when you have good field position if all you can do is move the ball a few yards to get a FG it's a failure, especially when you go in to the red zone 3 times and exit with 3 FG's, and two of those trips were inside the 10 where the offense had "driven" a whole 30 or so yards...but whatever Dude, you really "watch the game"...

    It's laughable.
     
  2. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    junc is a hopeless fan. he obviously has an attatchment to nacho for some reason other than football. if what he sees in his qbing skills is good enough for him to believe he will lead us to the big game, despite everyone who has replied to him that has proven that, 1. mark was carried by the rest of the team. 2. he is not a clutch performer. 3. he killed our window of opportunity for 4 years, even though i give him a mulligan his rookie year. 4. we will never win the big one with him trying to act like an nfl qb.
    no matter what stats, game facts, football fundementals, and game history we show him he is still gonna argue his very weak, mostly biased and untrue view of reality. his view of the games we have all watched for the last 4 years is undeniably through sanchize goggles. when taco is gone from the team, and out of football, he will still say that he was an awesome qb, and he was done dirty by everyone. only junc can see the great, in a qb that wasnt. enjoy nacho's career while it lasts junc.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I can't take it anymore, we have access to so much info today and fans are still as dumb as ever before.

    The Giants were floundering, on the road to missing the playoffs before the Giant D went on a tear. They shut down us and dallas the last 2 weeks to win the division then in postseason:

    -SHUT OUT Atlanta, a team that averaged 25 PPG
    -Held GB to 13 pts in the competitive portion of the game(GB scored a garbage time TD), GB averaged 35 PPG
    -held SF to 17 pts when they averaged 24 PPG
    -held NE to 17 pts AND scored 2 pts when NE averaged 32 PPG

    but yeah it was all Eli and the O:lol:

    2010:

    GB was 2nd in pts allowed per game and they scored a ton of points.

    In postseason:

    @ Philly: held them to 16 pts when they averaged 24(actually they averaged 30 in Vick starts that year)
    @ Atl: held them to 14 pts and scored a TD, Atl averaged 26 PPG
    @ Chi: held them to 14 pts and scored a TD, Chi averaged 21 PPG
    SB vs. Pitt: allowed 25 Pitt averaged 23 but again they scored a TD

    NO 2009:

    They allowed a lot of pts in reg season but much of that was garbage time as they were killing teams.

    in postseason:
    vs. Ari: allowed 14 to Ari, Ari averaged 24 PPG and just scored 51 the week before.
    vs. Minny: allowed 28, Minny averaged 29
    SB: held Indy to 17, they averaged 26 PPG and sccored the game clinching TD on an INT


    watch the games not the stat sheets. Teams w/ high power Os score a lot and quicker and it tends to skew stats as others are scoring garbage time pts and getting meaningless yards.

    2012 version? we have no chance, 2010 verison or better and we have a great chance.

    Mark did outplay Brady in the biggest game the 2 have ever played against each other.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The only incredible FP they were given was the one before the last FG, that's the only one you can say it was a failure not scoring a TD. You get the ball near midfield a TD is not guaranteed for any team. It's a great start though.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Nice post Junc.
     
  6. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez is a broken QB like Harrington, Russell, Smith, etc..

    time to move on
     
  7. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Oh now it has to be incredible field position. True not every drive you start near the 50 becomes a TD, but when you have 4 of them, and the last one inside the 15, you had BETTER score at least one TD in that...

    Okay let me get this straight on how you see the world (puts on Junc glasses). Defense gives up 20 points all game, gives the offense very good field positions on occasions...The offense has 2 drives that exceed 30 yards all game, fail to score a TD on 4 trips (if you include the offenses long FG drive) a QB who misses half his passes, throws more passes than the 41 year old on the other side, barely outpasses their own running game and only punches the ball across the goal line 1 time, but it's the defenses fault? got it....(takes off Junc glasses).

    You sir are the biggest suck up I've ever seen, hope Sanchez is paying you for your fandboi self.
     
  8. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    so now that joe flacco has lead the baltimore ravens to be afc divisional round playoff champions twice does that make him as good as sancheese?

    you guys have gotten way off topic, this is about mark sanchez sucking and nyjunc making excuses for him. lets get back on topic
     
  9. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Flacco overall has been a better QB overall. He's had a rougher run in the playoffs. But Flacco has a career 60% plus completion rate, only thrown less than 20 TD's once, his rookie season. Has never thrown more than 12 interceptions in a regular season. He does share Sanchez's penchant for fumbling. He also average over 7 yards an attempt for his career. Not elite, but he does have a much stronger arm than Sanchez, throws a better deep ball than Sanchez.

    I'd put him in the top half of active QB's...but not in the top 8 or 9.
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Flacco has been a better reg season QB, sanchez a better postseason QB.
     
  11. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    That's why Flacco is in the playoffs and Sanchez is not.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Flacco has MUCH more talent around him than sanchez has and he always has.
     
  13. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    flacco has led his team to the playoffs each of his 5 seasons. he is 7 and 4 and has been a part of a team that won the divisional round playoff championship i believe 3 times now.

    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news...Playoffs/2a0875f0-28e5-44af-bf64-41752c6df2d5

    it also says something interesting in this article. "Flacco’s postseason statistics have steadily improved through the years as well."

    but of course you have an excuse for this... he has so much talent. yes yes that must be it. he is sometimes just as bad as sanchez, see pass to the flat that he threw behind his receiver at a big moment last week. BUT he does bad shit like that far less frequently than the cheeseman AND when he is good he is just head and shoulders better than the cheeseman.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    when has Sanchez ever had a Ray Rice?

    Flacco had been pretty mediocre in postseason until last year's title game, he was mediocre in the WC rd this year then had a good game last week. He's been very good in 2 games. I know it's hard to see Sanchez and consistent in the same season but he has been nowhere near as consistent as Sanchez in postseason.
     
  15. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Is there NOTHING that will convince you that Flacco is a better all around QB than Sanchez? What if he wins the Superbowl 'Herp derp, Sanchez is still a great playoff QB'. Flacco had a good regular season, that's why he's in the playoffs. That's why he's been in there most every year.

    Sanchez has had two terrible regular seasons. That's why he's out of the playoffs. Sanchez is a mediocre QB at BEST. I can't WAIT until he's off the team, just can't wait. Maybe you can follow him to whatever aspect of life he chooses to do next. Or better yet, make him inactive. That way, you can see your boy in sweats while real COMPETENT quarterbacks are winning games.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    if he keeps playing well but AGAIN he has many more weapons than Sanchez has ever had, that's a HUGE difference. priot to this run no one was too high on Flacco. Let's not forget that.

    Sanchez had one terrible regular season and I guarantee you if Flacco was our QB you and most Jet fans would be bashing him and wishing he was gone.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    And Coaching.
     
  18. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    The ravens passing game was ahead of ours in2010. Our running game was 10 ranks higher, and our return team was ranked 3, and theirs was19. Our kicking game was 2nd and theirs 13. Their defense was 3 and our 6.
    It's safe to say once again, in all this information available to all us dumb dumbs that our teams were similar defensively but opposites on offense. Once again our Qb relied on the run, while flacco moved his team through the air.
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    AGAIN, just looking at rankings.

    you said it regarding the dumbs dums, that's a good descirption of anyone just posting rankings.

    you know we did advance further than Baltimore in 2010, right?
     
  20. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    One terrible season junc? 2011 was what? 2010 was an average Qb season, while his rookie season was shit during the regular season, and he had one good playoff game against the bengals. The game in SD he sucked, and against the colts he sucked as well, history has already proved that. His glorious 2010 post season he didnt suck too bad and he limited his mistakes but the defense carried him in Indy and in NE our run game and our defense outplaying Brady won that game for us. The Pitt game.....you do know his fumble caused the other team to have more points than us on the final score board, right?
    Flacco is superior and everybody that knows the game knows it. You don't?
     

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