Vlad Ducasse Schlauderaff, Caleb Landolt, Dennis Gates, Edmond Are the only guards under contract on this team. Our entire line short of Mangold and Dbrick absolutelyfricken blows Now if you want to make the arguement that we could get a legit starting guard in the 2nd, im fine with that. If you want to argue that taking a guard @ 9 is too early, im fine with that. But to say that our OL is "fine" and drafting a guard is a "waste" is absurd. Our offensive line is terrible, and we desperately need upgrades at both left and right guard positions. Even if we decide to roll the dice and let Vlad start, we still NEED another legitimate starting guard opposite of him.
I still can't conprehend and it baffles me how people in this board don't understand the concept of building a football team first in the trenches from the inside out. Some of the posts in this thread are ridiculous.
Trenches are definitely most important but it's typically the easiest need to fill.There are always starting quality guys in rounds 2-4...Playmakers are alot harder to identify & acquire. As an O-line guy it pains me to say that playmakers are what we should be targeting at #9. If building going O-line is the plan..trade down.
You really should educate fans about the draft instead of attacking them. Most of the people here, myself included, don't know as much as you regarding the draft. However, feel free to attack him for overrating our offensive line.
Take a chance? The Jets have holes all over the place and can't afford to take chances. Different, certainly not better. Decastro is a technician, Warmack is both a quick-footed technician AND a pancake artist who is rock solid on both run and pass. You didn't see Warmack blocking then going the second level to literally 'walk' Manti T'eo down the field on several occassions? How about the 2nd half of the SEC Championship game against 360 lb. John Jenkins? And, Decastro never had to compete in the Pac 10 against the level of competition Warmack has, competition Warmack has excelled against and that fact came to light in Steeler training camp. Ask McElroy if his head's stopped ringing.... Austin Howard? Matt Slauson? Get real.
Decastro was the most overrated non-QB in last year's draft. Warmack in my opinion is the real deal. He's worth the number nine pick in this draft. I wouldn't say he would have been in last year's draft and probably won't be next year, but he is this year.
Maybe we can get Barrett Jones of Alabama in the third. Would fill up the guard position, save an early pick and it'd be great to see someone smack Sanchez like he smacked AJ McCarron this year. No need to get so hostile over my opinion guys, trading down might not be the worst option this year I'd love to see the new gm get us a few extra picks
We are not getting hostile... We would just prefer that you educated yourself more on the subject before making such claims. I mean if you can back it up sufficiently, go right ahead; the more power to you. I was new to this draft stuff a few years ago... Started low on the totem pole, but learned as I went. And FYI, Barrett Jones is a likely 1st round pick. We would be extremely lucky if he fell to 39. No chance he makes it out of round 2.
As far as 2nd-3rd round OL help, and granted one or two of these may slip in to the end of the first round. As far as guards go, Larry Warford, Alvin Bailey and O. Uzzi (I can never spell his first name). As far as tackles go Oday Aboushi (could go in 1), Kyle Long, DJ Fluker (probably goes in 1), and Dallas Thomas (though I think he might be better suited for guard), I'd probably through Justin Pugh in there as well, though he's lighter than I like on the O-line. I'd be perfectly happy if the Jets could trade down to get an extra 2nd and spend all 3 on a mixture of those guys, and maybe get lucky and still get Warmack.
I attack the stupidity of statement. Do you guys really want the draft froum to be out of control with stupidity like a lot of posts in the main forum??? I don't have the time or patience deal with "the twitter type of posts" that infect a lot mesasageboards. It isn't my job to educate someone. If someone asks a question, I'll be more than happy to anwser it, if I know the answer. People can educate themselves by doing research, reading, watching film on players, watch College Football games etc. I only ban people when they break the rules of TGG, and even the 1st time or two, I give them a warning, unless it's so severe I wasn't given the choice. I recently didn't even ban someone who has a "shady posting history", made an inappropiate comment toward me because he disagreed with me POV. The members in this draft forum really know I'm a fair person and get along with just about everyone. The most important thing I can say: I take the NFL Draft, it's process and College Football very serious, it's a passion
If you consider that an attack your lucky the board cleaned itself up about a year ago when some of the more volatile EMO posters hit the road. We could not ask for a nicer mod than WW85 in the draft forum. As he said the information is out ther wand easily accessible. One could as easily type a player name in google as they could start a thread about him.
We should not be picking up ANYONE with that 9th pick. Trade back get another 2nd take best player available for OLine, or OLB in the first, 2nd get whatever you didn't get in the first on OLine or OLB, second 2nd get a Safety or RB and 3rd whatever you didn't get in 2nd between Safety and RB. Of course that all depends on what's available, but that's the best way that I can see it happening. Also, I think Howard can start again at RT, with a full offseason, he should be a good Tackle. If I remember correctly, he was named starter right before pre-season, so with the full offseason working with the 1s, he should keep improving. Also, we need OLB help, I say bring back Maybin for training camp, of he progresses good, if he doesn't cut him.
Rex will not pick a guard over an OLB. It won't happen. Whichever OLB is available is the pick. Mingo, Or Jordan would be my pick.
I think the philosophy the jets take in the first round depends on the look of our team after free agency. If we keep Landry, Cro and Revis, the need for the pass rush isn't as desperate as without that great secondary. If all three are retained (say what you will say about the heresy of trading revis or cromartie, its a realistic option for this front office) or even two of them, I believe we look towards offense in first. Wilkerson and Coples came on towards the end of the season pressuring the QB pretty well and the secondary helped that. There are really only two offensive options in the first round with both Matthews and Lewan returning to school. One of those options is Chance Warmack, and the other being a reach for a Quarterback. Personally, I hope that we don't take a QB in the first round because of the quality of quarterbacks available. If Warmack isnt available at our pick, not likely, then I think were forced to look for a passrusher.
I'm hoping that with a new GM, Rex isn't picking anyone. He can give all the input he wants, but the GM needs to make the final decision.
I don't think Rex will have final say. +1, the Gm has to run the draft and make the personnel decisions. I think Rex will have some input, but when it comes down to it, we need a GM to take control.
Hmm a mistake on Jetscap I just copied the names off of jetscap.com who were listed as guards under contract for next season. Figured he was a practice squad player or something, didnt even realize that.
If every front seven guy Rex picks is as good as Coples and Wilkerson id be cool with him picking a defensive guy with our first pick every year. But I think Rex knows and realizes that offense will be his downfall. And the way that the 49ers and Seahawks completely turned their offenses around could be the new template for defensive based teams. Maybe we grab a mobile quarterback in the middle rounds
