So you believe Rex had no input on role players and players that effect the cap? You don't think he wanted Mangold, Brick, Revis and Holmes. Rex has a lot more input and will have final say this year...The GM search is looking for someone that fits his style...
The coach wants all the great players he can get it us to the GM to put together a roster that fit under the cap. I think the coach has a lot of influence over this first round draft choice but just does not have the band width for the later round picks. So no the coach has little say who is brought in from a role players point of view. He evaluates them when they get here. He might tell the GM hey I need corners or WO etc. Did you not watch Hard knocks when they were trying to sign Revis Rex just wanted him he had no say in the negotiations at all that is on the GM. Guess what it works like this on most teams.
Westhoff is always A great interview, I'm looking forward to watching him in his next career in broadcasting, at least until he comes back to coaching.
pretty funny, I imagine, listening to the fat pig try desperately to bait Westhoff into crapping on the Jets and when he failed like the miserable dumbass he is to do so, waited like a weasel until Westhoff had hung up and then in his usual fat slob style usually reserved only for callers who properly call him out as a phony hypocrite, attacked the Jets as if Westhoff had never been on his phone line Question for the fat pig that never gets asked Hey Mike, you constantly say the Jets have been dysfunctional forever.... how come you never include the three years your same sex boyfriend was their Head Coach/GM?
What's wrong with what Westy said? He's 100% spot on. Love it that he came out with his feelings and stuff.
Westoff is free to say whatever he wants about the Jets he is no longer with the team and is trying to make it in the brodcasting world
It is really very simple. I believe that Rex had final say on personnel. Not just the draft: personnel. I think the chain of command went like this: Woody, Rex and Mr. T. is that so hard to understand?
It's hard for Rexaddicts to even consider it. So basically they lied when they repeatedly told the media they acquired Tebow for football reasons. He was there to be used as little as possible to sell tickets. That's why the "2nd string QB" never stepped in for a benched Sanchez. From day one they were never going to give him an opportunity to play. How bad is that.
Gentlemen, I think this Jets coaching team is lost without a Mike Westhoff. I think we lost something very, very valuable today. Not only on STs, but in every phase. He's been around a very long time, seen a lot, and has a great feel for the field. Has anyone ever noticed how much Westy was in Rex's ear on the sidelines? Giving advice? Helping decide situations? Red Flags? Personnel changes? Game-changing decisions? Rex is a complete mess on the field on Game Day and obviously needs a mentor like Westhoff. I am quite sure Rex would have made MUCH worse decisions W/O Westhoff at his side.... just my general observation from the sidelines, mind you. I'm personally very concerned Rex will be far worse off w/o Westhoff this year, just my HO. Rex Ryan - Mike Westhoff on the field = Clusterfuck. Look out below.
Until I see elephants and lions I disagree. As pretty much everybody has said, Westhoff was just being honest. I don't think it's a big deal that he didn't bring up the special teams, he knows they were bad. Coaching was mediocre throughout the entire department this year.
lol at Rex having final say look a HC should be allowed to pick some of his players I think thats fair especially when it comes to defensive players and Rex. However Tanny had more misses than hits the only way to move on is to forget about the past and make better decisions from now on which is something I can see Rex and the new GM trying to do
This article and most of this thread emphasizes the least important things Westhoff said and glosses over the most important. The key point is not that Tebow was not used correctly, it was that the QB who was the fifth pick in the draft and cost the team millions a year for 4 years was not developed and used properly. He made it clear that the offense should have been built around Sanchez and his strengths and that he should have been surrounded by talent. Instead he says that Sanchez was forced to shoulder an offense not suited to him and with inferior personnel and no running game the past two years. And when you peel the onion further, he was given too many long fields. The thing I have noticed, and statistics prove this, is that Sanchez rarely was given the opportunity to throw on first down (I think the Jets led the NFL in % of running plays on first down the past two seasons - 70% plus) and threw a disproportionate number of passes on 2nd and 3rd and long. Throw in the crap WRs he had the past two years and it all leads to a recipe for disaster, which is what we got. And now the kid is ruined. That is the major indictment cited by Westhoff. The Jets did not develop their most important asset. Tebow may not have been utilized correctly or at all, but who really cares? He was never brought here to be the QB. The Jets ruined Sanchez and that is what Westhoff said. The other issue is that the Jets have too much money tied up in too few players. And most of those players play positions where money should not be spent at that level - CB (ridiculous to spend $20 million a year on two CBs), Center, ILB. Throw in that the team did not handle the incredibly expensive QB it drafted four years ago properly and you have a roster and cap problem that we have seen the past two years. The upshot of that is that the rest of the roster sucks and the Jets don't have players at positions where you should spend the money - OLB/DE/Pass rusher and QB and OT (Ferguson is OK). The article, and Fatso I take it ( I refuse to listen after 2009) played up the Tebow part of Westhoff's critique and left these two main points out. The Jets are in this mess because they messed up the QB and put together a bad roster.
I only partly agree with you. On Sanchez it's debatable they ruined him. I've held the opinion for a while that based on my observation that Sanchez isn't up to running the offense. He thrives when we run first and then he throws play action off of that. So when they gradually opened up the offense and shifted the burden on to him, he regressed. I don't think it was unreasonable to do that, Mark going into his 4th year, the training wheels had to come off. This is a pass first league and if you can't handle that you shouldn't be a starting QB. Yes he could have benefited by more talent around him, but look at Peyton in Denver, or Brady in NE, they turn nobody receivers into household names. If you want to talk about play calling or utilizing what they have, yes they do a bad job. The cap situation is because they tried take a shortcut to make a SB bid. It's looking like Tebow was brought in to sell tickets.
As it should be, but then we get this quote, "Rex is gonna have input on the next GM." 1/8/2013. - Woody Johnson Yes, this is a chain-of-command that will surely succeed...
