The evidence continues to mount that it's the system that Rex runs that makes his teams top pass defenses. That's a good thing because we need to move at least one of these highly paid corners next year. The other good news is that the only time he had an elite defense was when he had a dominant inside pass rusher. We're well on the way to having another one in Wilkerson and Coples is also coming along nicely. Get young at LB and get some playmakers on offense.
When you have a healthy situation..you don't mess with it. Cromartie/Revis/Wilson under Thurman/Rex is all time good.Does the front 7 play in front of them need to get better? Of course it does. But It's not as far off as you think. We've seen the DL make positive strides as young blue chips continue to blossom & key veterans like Pouha fall into definitive roles & get healthy.This in & of itself will improve both the run fits & pass rush moving forward. As for the LB corps...Jets need 2. They need someone who can run fit sideline to sideline who can also set the edge & they need a weak side hybrid who can get the edge. I understand the salary cap & its implications..but I don't think adding 2 solid LBS forces the Jets to change anything in the secondary.
You consistently ignore to the point of obstinancy that having two cb's who play man D allows the rest of the D to play with more flexibility and to put more men in the box to stop the run. I don't know why you ignore that, but you do.
There's an easy answer to this Bradway - The Jets have played against terrible QBs this season. Outside of Brady - who DID feast on the Jets D, they've faced cupcake QBs all year. Also, their offense is so horrible - teams aren't having to chuck it to beat them. Might as well play conservative and run the ball if you know you only have to score 17 points to win... If you look at this Jets season and surmise the Jets don't need Revis, you are CRAZY.
Cromartie, Wilson, and our safeties have kept the Jets as a top 5 pass defense. We shouldn't invest this much money on one position, it should be spread around more evenly by putting it towards above average linebackers and play-makers on offense. Revis is amazing, and I would rather keep him then Cromartie, but there's no doubt we have an issue paying for these CBs. Rex is an expert at evaluating CBs, he should be drafted late round guys to help the team out instead of making that position an expensive one. I'll take a play-making safety that can play like a centerfielder over a 2nd overpaid lock-down corner
1. Quite obviously, Rex Ryan is a one hell of a defensive coach. 2. Good QBs kill this defense - not because the scheme is bad, but more or so because donkeys are playing at LB. I still believe the right way to handle Brady and Co. is to go with man-to-man schemes. The defense must jam the receivers at the line - to the point where it almost looks like mugging. Then, Jets D only needs to worry about two offensive gadgets: rubs and picks. Against that, you really need fast LBs who can close in on in a hurry. Since Jets LBs are slow as snails, jamming at the line also becomes a risky tactic in return. 3. Remember, even with Kris Jenkins healthy AND Darrelle Revis, Jets defense was at best mediocre during Mangini's reign. You can safely count out Darelle Revis as the factor. 4. This is why it's so frustrating. If Jets salary wasn't so thoroughly concentrated on top 10 or so players, this defense could really fly. Trust me - if they can find FS and LBs, the defense under Ryan's guidance has a potential to be historic. (Especially now that the DL is playing lights out as well.)
Yes you can. We had both. Revis/Cro and Landry/Bell. Too bad Revis got injured. Revis isn't going anywhere anytime soon so might as well plan accordingly. Landry is not going to damand more than 4-5 mil so we can easily get him back.
The Jets may have to pony up the $$$ for Landry...... http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...unt-article-1.1220499?localLinksEnabled=false
$7m is a little high for Landry imo even tho I think he's a beast. We'll see what happens. I think Bell has quietly been very good for us.
Kyle Wilson sucks? Really? Starting opposite Cromartie, Kyle receives 70% of the 'attention'. Yet the Jet backfield is in the top 5 nationally. Can you imagine how good we'd be if Kyle DIDN'T 'suck'??? Spend less time typing and more time watching.
Nobody in the Jet's defensive backfield sucks because if they did they'd be getting beaten like a drum right now with the rest of the unit playing well. People have forgotten what a bad cornerback looks like because the Jets haven't had one of those on the field since Rex Ryan took over the team. Even guys like Drew Coleman who were reviled in Eric Mangini's defenses played at least acceptably well for Rex. He makes people better cornerbacks than they'd be elsewhere and not just by a little bit.
I agree. I said about $5 mil a year. I'd be willing to stretch it to $6mil on a shorter contract with less guaranteed and a safety net in case of injury...or a combination of all three. However, we'll have other bidders so that will most certainly drive his price up to possibly eclipsing $7 mil. Troy Polamalu got $9 mil last year, so $7 mil in the FA is not far off for Landry. As for Bell, he's been solid for us this year. However, I'd be very cautious with him. He'd be 35 next year and will definitely slow down. One year deal is about the max I'd give him. I'd still bring him back, just not on a multi year deal unless its cap friendly to cut him after the first year (2 years, $3 mil including $500k signing bonus and dead cap of 250k in 2nd year)
Wilson is ok at best. He gets beat way too many times for my liking. Yeah, he's not terrible, but we spent a first rounder on him so I expected much more from him.
Yeah, he sucks for a 1st round pick. But he's perfectly acceptable as a second corner making much less than that. I expect the Jets to be able to replace him fairly easily if they can't re-sign him to a reasonable deal. There have to be a dozen guys out there each year between the draft and free agency who are his level of play or above. The key on cornerbacks is just not to have a stiff out there. If you have an ok player who doesn't get beaten like a drum you're in good shape because the job he has to perform is the least likely to need to get done in order to stop a pass completion. That's why the best corners each year have 15 or 20 passes defended not 50. Antonio Cromartie is having a great year for the Jets and he has 12 passes defended, or less than one a game. Yeah, the targets thrown at is also a key number but not necessarily in the way you think. For a cornerback getting thrown at a lot is a plus because it lets them actually interact with more plays and be more valuable as result. Darrelle Revis greatest season was in 2009 and that's primarily because the Jets put so much pressure on the opposing QB that they wound up throwing at Revis man much more often than they otherwise would have. Now if the cornerback sucks then he's going to get thrown at a lot in a bad way, giving up lots of completions, yards and TD's. So that's what you're looking for out of your cornerback: don't suck and don't get beaten like a drum as a result. A great cornerback who is getting no balls coming his way is turning the game into a 10-on-10 in the process and then the biggest variable is likely to be who the QB is and after that who the weakest link on the defense is.
2. Good QBs have a knack for finding the weakness in the defense and exploiting it. 3. Mangini's defense really was looking good for most of 2008. When Jenkins suffered his injury, everything kind of went downhill defensively. Jenkins and Favre both declined around the same time, and both units went right down with it. Jets had one of the better defenses in the NFL through about 10 weeks.
In the over all scheme of things does that mean anything? All I know at this moment even with that stat U posted they are still a non PO team at Yes I totally agree on your DR comments. I hope that RR also see this stat. :sad:
I think it's mostly this. We have played well on defense at times, but it seems like after we are already down by a couple TD's. Teams are calling more conservative pass plays when they do pass, which leads to more throwing the ball away. How do you not factor in passing yards given up when considering a pass defense's worth?
