I have lost faith in Ryan's judgment. It pains me to say. More accurately, I think he allows some agenda other than a pure appraisal of talent to affect his decisions.
Nonsense. McElroy won the game for the Jets. And you and other detractors, the vast majority of whom are Sanchez Fans it is clear, need to get past saying "he's only a seventh round pick". He's shown more than that. Having said that, it is clear to me that Ryan is not going to give McElroy a chance to start after spending a week's practice with the first team. I find that decision inexplicable, and intend to give up on touting McElroy for the time being. Posting on a message board does not have any effect on the HC's decisions, to state the obvious. Sometimes I get really sick of this team.
Or maybe there's some of us that don't think either is good enough......... if you were able to combine the 2 into 1 QB, we may have a pretty good one.
I'd rather the Jets put him out there and see how he does before writing him off. If he gets his chance and he fails then we can move on knowing they gave him a fair shot.
A QB should be able to throw the ball at a minimum velocity to start in the NFL. From looking at a McElroy highlight video from college, he clearly couldn't. I'm not a football expert and from watching his HIGHLIGHTS, it was clear that he could not throw the ball strongly. The article says he has improved his arm strength greatly, but who knows if he's improved enough to start. From hearing him speak, I like him personally more than Sanchez and he's probably a better leader than Sanchez. From what I've heard, he's also very bright, so I would guess that he would make fewer mental mistakes than Sanchez. If the velocity is good enough, I think he could make it as a starter, but like I said, I'm no football expert.
Yes that is... Oh wow he has a highlight video he must be good. Wait until he is trying to throw downfield against real NFL safeties.
Yea way to go greg. Those 25 yards were amazing. That 1 yard touchdown pass where the D basically left Cumberland alone was real impressive. I dont understand why everyone here is obsessed with mediocrity at QB. Greg has as low a ceiling as they come. I want a QB who can win games for us not just keep us from screwing them up. Greg would get destroyed by NFL defenses if he ever tried to throw downfield. Our run game is so up and down if it struggles Mcelroy will look pathetic.
Intelligence does not equal not making mistakes. Look at harvard in Buffalo. All he did was lead the league in picks last year.
Greg McElroy QB'd a national championship offense. You don't fly under the radar in that situation. You get seen by everybody over and over again in big games against strong competition. If he had what it takes to be an NFL starting QB he'd have been picked early in the draft. Every now and then somebody gets missed, but not at the level of going in the 7th round. The best QB taken in the 7th round of the NFL draft since the NFL went to 7 rounds was Ryan Fitzpatrick. He went that low because he came from an Ivy League program. In the NFL he has been a meh QB and he probably represents near the ceiling of where a 7th round QB can play. Unless Greg McElroy is an all-time mistake by the NFL establishment he's just hanging out on an NFL roster for a few years until he figures out what to do with his life.
But are his mistakes mental mistakes or physical mistakes? Sanchez seems to make a LOT of mental mistakes.
Improved arm strength does not a QB make. If I improve my arm strength to the same or better level as Jay Cutler, it doesn't mean I might be a better QB either. Agreed but would prefer to see more than just Mark & Greg competing (no Tebow) You're statement is contradictory - if this was a decent run organization either the Jets would have A) completely passed on Sanchez and brought back Favre for another year or B) put the pieces around Sanchez to succeed. They did neither. Actually, Mark is picked off more on his intermediate passes and most successful on his long passes. Unfortunately they don't let him throw deep enough.
Some of us are obsessed with mediocrity because mediocrity would be a massive upgrade from Mark Sanchez. There's absolutely no question that a mediocre QB would have had us sitting at 7-6 or 8-5 now with a very legit shot at the playoffs instead of a monster long shot. A QB who could carry the team on his back would be awesome, but a QB that isn't going to screw it up is much, much better then a QB who screws it up every game like Sanchez. As far as your contention that Mcelroy would get destroyed by NFL defense, this ignorant assertion has been ridiculed enough by intelligent people that it doesn't need to be revisited. Nobody has said that Mcelroy is a great QB and absolutely the Jets answer at starting QB going forward. What people are saying is that Sanchez is utter dog shit and Mcelory is an automatic upgrade. What intelligent people are saying is that we won't ever know for sure what we have in Mcelroy until he gets a chance to actually play. Unfortunately for people who want the Jets to win, Rex either doesn't have the good sense, or isn't being allowed to make the change.
Come on, you're better than that. If McElroy won us the ARZ then Sanchez won us the JAX game and Sanchez marched us to the AFC championship his rookie year. McElroy enjoyed a energized run game and a great defense, something Sanchez had last game in the second half barring that last drive
Anyone with at least some sense of logic, would very much rather put that scenario in the hands of someone who's allegedly accurate, rather than Mr Turnover or even worse - the fantastically inaccurate Tebow. Even when healthy, Tebow couldn't hit the inside of a bus, let's also just assume that his rib situation hasn't helped his accuracy much… and now he's still is picked as #2 in front of McElroy because "that's just how Rex feels". As they're now throwing the Failcat out of the window, this no longer makes -any- sense, as everyone knows (even Tim himself) that he is utter shit in a traditional offense. Unless, of course, they're just doing it to save face. Then it makes perfect sense. Since it's appearently too painful to acknowledge that not only have they been wrong about Sanchez, but also in acquiring Tebow. Having said that, shouldn't you be happy to see Sanchez hit the bench, more than anyone? We all see and know that Sanchez for the majority of the season is screwing games up, to the point where they're not even letting him throw anymore. They're playing more "retard failsafe football" now more than ever. So why are you so reluctant to find out what else we got on the roster? One of the reasons brought up in that McElroy game, is that anyone could hand the ball over to the run game and the result would've been the same. Well, isn't that exactly what they've reduced Sanchez to now? That's what they want him to do now… And from what I can see, no-one here is obsessed with mediocrity. As mentioned, it's rather that most ppl here would be happy to upgrade to mediocrity for the moment considering we currently have a Sanchez that's only starting because the FO refuses to admit that they've been wrong for so long. Again, been so wrong about Sanchez to the point where they're rather playing him in a failsafe offense, than test the full spectrum offense with another QB at the wheels. Oh noes. Watching McElroy look pathetic for a couple of games would be so much worse than having seen Sanchez look pathetic 90% of the time his last 15-or-so games. I'm pretty sure they're not having him throw at all now for a reason, regardless of distance. ^.^
Well the obvious reason to have him not throw is that he is a mediocre passer throwing to semi-pro caliber wide receivers. That can't end well.
