Sanchez will start

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Do you understand that the commitment to Sanchez already exists? Having to eat Sanchez's salary has already happened. Yeah, i understand that the money itself has not actually been transferred to his account, but the obligation already exists.

    You also implicitly assume that the choice outcomes on this game are either Sanchez sucks or Sanchez succeeds. There's also the mediocre middle ground.

    Which is as likely an outcome as any other.
     
  2. soh_vet

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    Blind? You're delusional, please point out the plethora of Sanchez first fans on this forum. Tebow is one thing, he has a following and his own forum. Sanchez not even close. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. And if you think people who think Sanchez should start at QB equates to Sanchez Fan > Jets Fan, don't even bother replying.
     
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    Actually the people who say Sanchez should start are better characterized as delusional.
     
  4. Br4d

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    No, for the most part the people who say Sanchez should start don't have the blinders on that most of the fan base is wearing at the moment.

    I would rather have McElroy start but that's because I'm sick of watching Sanchez and I think putting McElroy on the field will expose the front office as both of its recent QB picks fail. We're more likely to get a clean sweep in the front office after the season in that scenario.

    I don't think for a minute that McElroy is actually more likely to lead the Jets to a win. I don't believe in winged fairies.

    We saw the win that McElroy can produce over Sanchez, which is when the other team can't score for its life and Sanchez is having one of the worst days of his professional career. That's not a win we're likely to see again any time soon.
     
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    I'm for whatever is the quickest path to a complete overhaul of the coaching staff, gm, scouts and roster. I supported Rex but not anymore. I'm done with him and his constant blowing smoke up our asses each week. Sanchez SUCKS.
     
  6. Br4d

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    You know there's a thread for that topic. You might want to add this there also.
     
  7. PayDirt

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    I think Rex knows exactly what he's doing. If he had put Tebow in the game and Tebow did what McElroy did, then could you imagine how crazy the media, let alone the fans, would have been??!

    Rex is very stubborn, almost to a fault, but he truly believes that Sanchez is his best chance to win. Maybe he's wrong, but it's his team and he has the right to think that.

    As for last game, Sanchez was truly struggling and it was a very winnable game even with the crazy struggles. Rex did what he had to do. In no way did it mean he was giving up on Sanchez. What that game did, however, was create a precedent for how long his leash is. Sanchez knows now, "if I'm sucking, I'm gonna get yanked."

    Will that light a fire under him or break him down even more? Luckily for Sanchez (and the Jets), he gets to face Jax this week.
     
  8. Barcs

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    Well Sanchez' history against bottom of the barrel defenses is pretty good. If he sucks or is mediocre it won't bode well for him because he HAS to have a good game, and when I say good, I mean more than good. If we were playing the Seahawks or Cards again, I'd be skeptical but it's the 31st ranked defense in the league we're playing. I'm well aware the salary has already been committed, but it doesn't hit the cap until next season. If we try to replace him next season, we eat the money AND pay extra for another QB going against the same cap. It's not that complicated at all. Realistically its better for the team as whole to invest that money at RB or on the line, than to dump Sanchez and bring in another QB. This weekend would change my mind and show he's beyond repair, however if it does play like shit or even mediocre. Sanchez either lights up the Jags this weekend, or it's over. If he barely squeaks out a win, that's not acceptable unless Jacksonville manages to put up a lot of points on our D, which I don't really see.
     
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    The discussion seems to be going in circles. Here is what I am rooting for for the rest of the season.

    1. Benching changed Sanchez for the better.
    2. Last 2 games woke up the coaching staff.
    3. Team, especially offense, start to play with a little bit of fire.
    4. Jets win out the rest of the regular season.
    5. The cards break just right so that Jets can sneak in.

    It's always darker before the dawn. I remember well how Eli Manning was crucified 5 years ago & hope against all logic that we might catch the same lightning.
     
  10. ArmandJ

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    Same here. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about Sanchez.
     
  11. Frenbar

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    This is why Rex should go. Rex is a good football guy who knows his X's and O's but he is either loyal or delusional to a fault, and therefore is not a good coach. Sanchez utterly sucking and playing the worst football of any QB in Jets history is on Sanchez. Shoveling Sanchez out there to "play" week after week when he is an embarrassment to the organization and everyone who watches football is on Rex.
     
  12. FJF

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    it seems some people confuse "best chance to win" with a " good chance to win"
    now rex can't say that all 3 qb's suck and we really don't have a shot with any of them.
    however, he can believe that mark gives us "the best chance to win" and know in his heart the qb situation is a mess
    the fact that he sees them everyday leads me to believe this is the case
     
  13. Frenbar

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    You are right, Rex can't say that all 3 qb's suck and we don't have a shot with any of them.

    However, what everyone who watches football knows for certain is that Sanchez sucks and the Jets don't have a shot to win with him. It doesn't matter whether Rex says this or not - it's absolutely, 100% crystal clear.

    What is unknowable, by Rex, or anyone else in the universe, is whether Tebow or Mcelory would play as badly as Sanchez. Rex may have his suspicions due to what he has seen in practice, but if the Sanchez situation has taught you anything, it's that what you do in practice doesn't necessarily have any relation to what you do during a real game.

    So you have a proven zero in Mark Sanchez, and two likely zeros in Tebow and Mcelory. It's just asinine for Rex, or anyone else, to keep saying that the proven zero gives the Jets a better chance to win then a possible zero.
     
  14. soh_vet

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    stop making logic! You've been warned!
     
  15. Ben Had

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    The rest of the schedule is pretty easy. I really hope Sanchez does enough to stay starter.

    He really makes the rest of the AFCE better.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    This makes sense. I was just going off on the point that rooting for Sanchez to succeed doesn't mean I'm a Sanchez fan. I'm rooting for it because it helps the Jets out so much more than any other scenario. If there was a Luck waiting in this draft, then I could care less about Sanchez. He would be a walking lame duck next year. But there is no Luck. So at this point if he does well it helps our team the most. Especially since it can put off getting a QB until not next offseason but the following one. I'm afriad if Sanchez just sucks to end, we reach this draft for a QB instead of realizing there isn't good value and building other holes.
     
  17. FJF

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    you have a good point. i will argue that it is hard for rex to make the switch to someone who looks worse in practice. you're asking for blind faith and thats a hard thing to do.

    note to tebow fans. i am not saying tebow definitely sucks in practice or is even getting enough snaps to make a decision. just trying to use some logical speculation as to the motives behind this quandry
     
  18. Hobbes3259

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    You guys are on Drugxs. He knows to the penny how much $$$$$ he is guaranteed and they aren't putting their investment in Austin Howard's hands with no postseason left.
     
  19. Hobbes3259

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    I hear your Mom makes the Seventh fleet relaxed.
     
  20. Ozymandias

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    why not just start McElroy? this is ridiculous. Rex probably remembered Sanchez and the Jets put up 48 on Buffalo in week 1.
     
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