So I've thought long and hard on what it will take to fix our beloved Jets and outside the obvious, here is my take on what needs to be done to fix this organization. Greg Bedard from The Boston Globe gives his suggestions in the article below: http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2012/...rect-things/2b2d6jroxEJp9HAxOZHqlI/story.html And I happen to agree with a lot of what he has to say. First and foremost, the problem inspite of what many on this fan site may think, is NOT Rex Ryan, it is Mike Tannenbaum. The problem starts with him. He is NOT a football decision maker, the man is a numbers cruncher and based on what might be ahead of us, in terms of the 2013 cap and beyond, he hasn't done a great job. Tannenbaum needs to be jettisoned from The Jets organization ASAP, I and many have said this all along, but we all know that will not bode well for Ryan because new GM, means new HC staff. So with that being said, who are the hot names in 'PLAYER PERSONNEL' in the NFL right now? Who's buzz worthy? Here's my short list for our future GM: Vince Newsome (Ravens - Ozzie's Son) Dan Rooney Jr. (Steelers -I can dream can't I?) Kevin Abrams or Ken Sternfeld (Giants) John Dorsey (Green Bay) Nick Caserio (Dear I say, Patriots) Brian Gardner (Texans) There's no guarantee that either of these individuals, even based on the CONTINUED and SUSTAINED success of their respective clubs, will automatically bring the Jets sucess, but it's a start in the RIGHT direction and it can't hurt. None has been a GM before, but each comes from successful programs in the NFL and have had great mentors as GMs Next the HC I say Rex Ryan is STILL an EXCELLENT coach and with the right players and a competent OC, I'd love to see him stay and see what he can do. Tanny has screwed this team 12 ways to Sunday, especially on the offensive side of the ball, allowing key players and locker room leaders go like Faneca and Thomas Jones. But, as previously mentioned, the likelihood that a new GM will keep the HC from the current regime, especially with 2 consecutive mediocre seasons, is slim to none. So my list of possible HC replacements are as follows (Note: we need an offensive minded coach to be quite honest. Someone with some vision and one who can, if we're doomed to keep Sanchez, develop this kid correctly, coach to his strengths): Cowher (Woody - Give the man what he wants in terms of $ and personnel decisions) Gunther Cunningham (if we need to stick with a defensive minded coach, or Karl Dunbar) Cam Cameron Chip Kelly (Oregon Ducks HC) Mike Tice Mike Sherman Vic Fangio (Another Defensive Coach) Now I don't profess to be much of, if any, sort of capologist, but I am all for scrapping a LARGE portion of this team, trading players, clearing cap space and stockpiling draft picks. I am a true proponent of building your team via the draft. Some have mentioned trading Revis, something I would have scoffed at as absurd at one point. However, with the right offer and enough draft picks, I'd trade our best player (Either through trade, draft or free agency. We can acquire another shutdown corner, not in Revis caliber, but someone who is somewhere in Cro or slightly better category). I'd then get rid of Holmes, IMMEDIATELY, if not for anything else, other than he's a locker room cancer. I'd find buyers for Tebow (and Sanchez if possible) and because it's a TRUE rebuilding effort, try my luck with McElroy. Again, I'd do the old Belichek approach and stockpile picks over the next 3 draft periods, trading down and acquiring more (draft picks) to fill holes (RB, RG, LG, Blocking TE, OLB, FS, QB) and adding depth. Fellas, what's your take? What approach would either of you take to fix our problem, is my approach laughable, euphoric, right on point, absurd, I am open to all honest opinions. Like most of you, I've been a Jets fan a LONG time (3+ decades) and would LOVE to see my beloved Jets hoist the Lombardi Trophy, LONG BEFORE I take my final rest. :up:
The Jets have enough on both sides of the ball already. The Jets just need to retool. Give Mark some weapons, like a deep threat receiver, and a RB, add some depth to the o line. On defense draft some OLB and a MLB.
Who isn't a "excellent" coach with the right players? Get rid of this clown. Major changes are a must. Get rid of all the dead weight. Taco , Revis contract , Greene , Holmes , Scott , Pace , Harris etc. I agree on taking the Pats approach. If we can't learn anything from the best team in sports we don't deserve to win. I've said this before many times. They do everything better than us , why not learn from them. Maybe in 4-5 years we have a shot at contending.
Absolutely, But I don't think Tannenbaum is the right answer at GM and with that being said, we know the next GM more than likely, if unfairly give Ryan his walking papers, because every new GM wants his own HC. With that, do you like any of the choices for GM and HC? But I agree totally.
Wow can u spell homer. Lol you really think " we have enough on both sides of the ball ". Seriously man give it up. We need major changes. Not just retooling. We need to blow it up. After all this you still want Taco? Really?
Herm Edwards. Scott and Pace are gonners and Revis contract if he's NOT willing to restructure, trade him for enought picks to give us a shot as a legitimate contender I say. I agree. Spygate aside, the formula they've put together has been a successful one for so very long and for over a decade now they've been 1st or 2nd in the AFCE.
Dorsey would be a great pick as GM but he's very tightly tied to the Packers having played for them and being in the organization since then. He lives where he works and he's raised his family there. He's not coming to NYC. Some things just don't make sense no matter how much money is involved and this is one of them. The guy who might be persuaded is John Idzik in Seattle. He's got a strong background in player personnel and on the finance side of the house. He has experience representing the Seahawks at league meetings, which is a rare thing for a non-owner. He has the respect of the NFL establishment. The one thing he doesn't have is the control that a GM has over the entire football operation. That might be enough to persuade him to come and try to be the guy to get the Jets over the top. He's also got his last kid flying the nest. There'll never be a better time for him to make the leap than now: still young enough to make the move and not worrying about how it will effect the kids. He has a background with the Bucs in the good years early on, the Cardinals as a transition and now the Seahawks. He's seen a lot of football behind the scenes.
Mike Tannenbaeum will be the Jets GM next season unless someone else in the orginazation comes up and replaces him. Rex Ryan isn't going anywhere regardless of how alot of fans feel.I still belive in Rex atleast for one more year. The problem is the offense and the OC and the QB's coach need to be replaced. Norv Turner in my mind is the top candidate for the OC job, He actually has a resume unlike Sparano who was another horrible decison.The fixing lies mostly in the offense, We will fix alot of these holes next offseason i truly belive that, I think that keeping Tannenbauem for one more year isn't horrible idea either, Tannenbaeum also deserves credit for getting us to those two AFC championship games just like Rex does, I think with the Superbowl being played at Metlife in 2014 will lead to Woody giving Rex and Mr T one more year to put together a team good enough like (09,10) to get to the big game. Next season will be do or die for Rex and Mr T. Woody isn't gonna wanna get rid of one of them without getting rid of the other
I like that. Didn't really look at him as a consideration. But I like that a lot. Thanks for the feedback.
Trading Revis would be such a Jets move, Moves like that are why we aren't the Steelers or the Giants who keep there great players , Its a passing league and having the best corner in the league sounds like a priority to me,Losing Revis would be a disaster we have let to many players go in this orginazation who have gone on to be great somewhere else, John Abraham,Jonathen Vilma,Woodhead,Hugh Douglas,James Farrior just to name a few, We haven't had a guy to get over 10 sacks since Abrham
Even though it's an Unpopular I agree with the above and would like to see that happen. I'd like get rid of Scott, Holmes, Smith, and Pace ( maybe give him minimum contract). Redo Sanchez, Pouha, Dbrick, maybe Harris contracts to lower numbers. One of our new safeties is gonna have to go, so I'd prefer to keep Landry (3 yr 15mill with 2 years 10 mill guarantee ) but he will want a decent contract along with Keller (4yr 23 mill with 15mill guarantee.)
I agree, I wasn't pleased with the pick of Sparano as OC and see this as a one year experiment. Yes Tanny was instrumental in fielding the team that got us to back to back AFCC games, but was also instrumental with removing solid players and keeping the likes of Holmes and letting Edwards, Cotchery and Smith go, killing any continuity that ANY QB needs, especially a young developing QB, to be successful. Sanchez has not had the same group of receivers in any of his 4 seasons as starting QB. He's had to deal with 4 different WR combinations each season, there is no way to feel comfortable with your receivers when you all don't know each other. Brady has had Edelman, Welker and Gronk and Hernandez AT LEAST 2 seasons straight. Tanny needs to also stop trading away pics to move up when to get one player when the Jets lack depth and enough players at key positions on both sides of the ball. We'll see what happens.
John Idzik would be an excellent candidate. I love the organization they are running there in Seattle.
I wouldn't just out right trade Revis, however from a business standpoint with the lack of depth and talent, you don't let ONE player hold your entire organization hostage. I'd hate to see Revis go, trust me.
I can definitely see that as an option. I'd say restructure a bunch of contracts as well, INCLUDING Revis and appeal to his sense of TEAM over SELF and promise to revisit once we have the talent level to compete along with the likes of Pitt, Baltimore, NE, etc... Scott, Holmes, Smith and Pace, good bye.
You really think so? Offense D'Brick Mangold Holmes Kerley Keller (re-signed) Defense Harris Revis Cromartie Wilkerson Landry (re-signed) Coples The offense needs a young veteran receiver that could stretch the field (Bowe) a runningback (Steven Jackson) the defense needs pass rushers
Steelers always trade/release their vets one year too early - than wait until their respective contracts explode beyond the next stratosphere. What the hell are ya talking about? And nobody is against keeping Revis on Jets roster. Most are against keeping him at some 14-15M/year contract. That's a stupidity.
I don't agree with trading Revis (assuming he's back to his old self). Like someone else said, this is a passing league, having Revis is a luxury. I'd trade Holmes and Harris. Holmes for sure and Harris can bring in a 2nd (maybe). He could be replaced with Davis then pick up another ILB for Scott. Harris' contract will be huge and he's too slow. We need to build this team to be fast at every position.
By name value, it seems like Jets have enough. If you look at their respective cap figure, you won't say the same. Brick/Mangold are at combined 20M figure. If you think that's fine, then I don't think you know anything about cap numbers whatsoever. Harris at 13M? He'd better be gone unless he's willing to take a massive paycut. Look. You have about 126M to fiddle through all 53 players on the roster. Ok? Do the math yourself. Even if you spread 500k to the fringe players, all the starters are supposed to get some 5M figure by average. Is Harris thrice the ILB that an average ILB is? Oh hell fucking no. (Same with Revis. He is covering ONE receiver at all times, not three.) Jets must first find a way to deal with their cap situation, where 90% of the cap money is concentrated on top 10 players (in terms of cap figure). That's not how you build a strong team. Pass rusher? What premier pass rusher will want to work for peanuts?
Definetley, He Deserves 75% of the blame for where we are now no question, But he has proven in the past he can put together a team , we just need to keep that team this time
