I think the same thing about Sparano as I thought about Schottenheimer: most of the problems are out of his control, but just because he isn't entirely to blame doesn't mean that he's a good offensive coordinator.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/s...hottenheimer.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&_r=0 Well finally we hear a player say what most of us have been saying for years.
you should watch the interview and the context of the quote. Brian is a good OC, the Rams are ing ood hands w/ him and Bradford, now they just need some talent for the QB to throw too.
the rams yesterday looked... well... like the jets the past 3 or 4 years. vanilla everything underneath offense that got away from the run too early in the game.
I think we had a huge edge knowing his offense and knowing we were much more talented on D than SL on O.
i honestly think once the d saw what the game plan was it was over. from the first series on they played really well. they stopped the run fairly well and the lambs went away from it. and they played tight underneath coverage. for a game that you would expect the opposing oc to do something different he just didnt.
When the Rams were running all over the Jets early on all I was thinking was "this is the one game this year where the opponent is going to roll up yards on the ground and we're going to win anyway." Then for some reason Schotty stopped running the ball and his patented "drive but don't score" plan blew up in his face.
OC and Qb suck big time. I still rather have Sparno and Sanxhez over those 2. Good luck Fisher, you are going to age real quick with that duo
Brian is not a good OC. And I base that on the context of watching him with 3 completely different QB's and he didn't make any of them better.
never had a chance w/ Chad and Favre, he helped develop sanchez and he has taken a huge step back this year w/o Brian.
It brought a smile to my face seeing the rams down by 2 scores, 27-13, with the ball and about 2 minutes left (unlikely but still very possible), and rather than throwing down the field, we see Bradford dumping off plays for 3-7 yards right up the middle. I don't miss Schottenheimer.
And the announcers commenting with a bit more than 6 minutes to go in the game that the Rams needed to step it up and get up to the line of scrimmage faster, down by two scores late. There were so many facets of the Jets offense that were just that much (holding finger and thumb an inch apart) off during Schotty's tenure here but those inches added up to missing things by a mile by the time he left.
Yep, abandon what's working (running the ball) and do the opposite (passing against a good pass D). That's always a great strategy :breakdance:
anecdotal examples about Sanchez's regression and emotional claims that he just did not get a chance with Favre and Pennington simply are not greater arguments for why he is a good OC than the actual performance of his offenses that reveal his a bad OC. do you have any other type of examples or statistics that support your assertion? because your argument appears to be just that despite how mediocre or bad every offense he has ever been in charge of has performed, there is a reason that can rationalize that it was not Schotty. unfortunately, that just isn't a credible argument, and a good OC would have tangible proof to validate any analysis that he is good.
It is an indisputable fact that good offenses tend to have good offensive coordinators, bad offenses tend to have bad offensive coordinators and so on. Nothing Brian Schottenheimer has done as an offensive coordinator in his NFL career suggests that he is a good offensive coordinator at this point. The question is whether he is average and dragged down by weak talent everywhere he goes or whether he contributes to the talent failures that occur all around him. It's an open question that isn't going to be resolved until he either leaves the NFL or finally produces a good offense.
Brian Schottenheimer, never change. It's good we can all get a nice laugh after all we've been through this season. That 3rd and 1 play where he sent 5 WRs out. Everyone here had to know what was coming. I saw the personnel and immediately started laughing after it was incomplete.
2006: got Chad pennington fresh off his SECOND rotator cuff surgery on his throwing shoulder. 2007: Chad gets hurt again, has Kellen Clemens most of season 2008: inherits disinterested Brett favre who was acquired a month before the season and playing in a new system for the first time in 15 years. 2009: rookie Mark sanchez He did a good job developing Mark, a QB that helped us reach 2 AFC Championship games. mark took a step back in 2011(despite better #s) but has taken am major leap backward this season. He's never had top talent to work with and we've always had decent offenses anyway plus: 7 playoff games as OC: 19.4 PPG 18 other playoff games in NYJ history: 18.9 PPG he was never the problem here.
