When you look back at Rex's first two years the years we went to back to back title games you look at two things, depth and talent. Since 2010 this team has gotten worse every year and hear we are 3-6 in 2012. Lets go back and look at players and issues from then to now and see where it all fell apart. We had alot of talent and veterans on that roster that didn't make it back for the 2011 season. We had great players like Damien Woody,Brad Smith,Jason Taylor,Braylon Edwards,Jericho Cotchery,Kris Jenkins,LT,Dwight Lowery,Brodney Pool, and if you go back the year before we also had solid players like Kerry Rhodes,Alan Faneca,Thomas Jones.We then replaced our WR's with aged veterans in Burress and Mason witch was a joke in itself.You don't just make it to two back to back AFC championship games and all of a sudden become a joke overnight.So at the end of the 2011 season after going 8-8 and falling apart with locker room problems we fire Shotty and use him as a scape goat of sorts.Earlier in the year 2012 offseason we all expected some big moves after the way the season ended we draft Hill and get Tony Sparano??!!? and Chaz Chielnz??! to help the offense.Then after seeing the Giants win the Superbowl Tanny sees a way to keep the Giants out of the headlines and trades for Tim Tebow.After winning headlinebowl the only thing fixed was the secondary with the additions of Bell and Landry witch were good moves but what does it matter when the offense is pitiful.My question is WHY???? Why did the level of talent go from former pro bowlers and top tier players to what it is now????My biggest fear now is after losing Holmes and Revis that will be used as an excuse and no heads will roll like we want them to. If Tannenbaeum doesn't get fired then he better go all out this offseason because he better know that if this happens again during the 2013 season him and Rex are done for sure and they have to know that.Will we ever have the same talent on this team that we did that year????Where do we go from here???
today, on boston radio, tom brady was pointing out how valuable woodhead has been with the pats and directly led to a win last sunday against the bills. we cut him after he performed ON the field and kept two washed-out ravens ? no wonder our talent pool has diminished. the gm and our defnsive coach don't know jack about offense. are you really surprised suckchez is still starting? i mean really?
Holmes would not have made the offense good enough to win any of the games he's been out for. (so far) If they use that as an excuse it will make them look like idiots again.
What hurts is this: we could very well be 5-4 if we make a few plays here and there. Hill doesn't drop that ball, we beat the Pats. We make one or two more plays, we beat the Niners. Good teams find a way to win.
2010: deep team which still had a lot of the deep 2006 draft on it alongside a metric fuck-ton of high-priced free agent talent and trades acquired between 2008 and 2010. The meh drafts of 2008 to 2010 hadn't settled into the muck yet and the free agents/trades had not quite started to drop out due to age. Now: Vietnam 1968. Every now and then there's a rustling in the undergrowth but everywhere I look I see dead people. And dying. BTW, the Jets have ONE player on the roster right now drafted before 2006. Only Sione Pouha survives from the Terry Bradway era. Is that unusual? Well, the Giants have six players still on the roster from before 2005, five if you count Eli Manning as a trade instead of a pick, although the guy they picked and traded for Eli is still active also. Justin Tuck, Osi Umeniyora, Corey Webster, David Diehl, Chris Snee and Eli.
Wrong ---- Woodhead was cut to make room for David Clowney. But right, --- we also kept 2 washed out former Ravens on the roster.
Couldnt agree more. Its completely unacceptable to whiff on 1st & 2nd round draft picks and we have a great recent history with that. Not to mention that a roster is built on rounds 3-5 & recently we have discharged a ton of those while getting nothing in return. 2006 draft - Kellen Clemens (2nd round) & Anthony Schlegel LB (3rd round) 2008 draft - Vernon Gholston - complete whiff. Traded up for Dustin Keller in the 1st round that cost us 2nd + 4th rounders --- the initial 2 for 1 concept that Tanny has utilized often. Brett Favre trade --- he played 1 f--king season ---- cost us a 3RD ROUND PICK in the 2009 draft. Let Danny Woodhead go ----- nothing anyone says will change my mind about this. 2009 draft Traded 1st & 2nd rounder along with 3 or 4 players to get Mark Sanchez. Traded 3rd and 4th rounder to get Shonn Greene Continuing the 2 picks for 1 player pattern - are these investments paying off? 2010 draft Our 3rd & 5th round selections from this draft (along with Jason Trusnick + Chansi Stuckey) went to Cleveland all for 1 player ---- Braylon Edwards. The important note here is this ---- all that given up & Edwards didnt even play 2 FULL SEASONS for the JETS. We got him 4 games into the 2009 season and then he played 16 games in 2010 ----- gone. Our 2nd round pick Ducasse has barely seen the field in 3 seasons. 2012 draft Tim Tebow trade ---- cost us a 4th round draft pick. Not being used at all & even worse --- might possibly not be here after next season (or even after THIS season).
I know,Tanny has killed this roster with poor choices,And I worry during this offseason after we sign whatever of our free agents how much Cap space will be available for other signings
The turning point of this season! Was in my opinion the loss in NE to the Pats If we had won that game I think this team would be moving in a total different direction and perhaps so would the Pats. That loss was devastating and sent us in a total tailspin which we have not and dont think we will recover from this year. Since that game I have seen no heart or drive in mostly any of the players particularly the offensive. Could it have been that was when the team started to lose faith in Sanchez or even lose faith in the coaching staff due to the horrible playcalling and it just seam now ever sine they just go out there and run through the motions. Sanchez has mentally checked out in my opinion and will never be god for this team ever again due to the circumstances that have gone down this season.
It's usually a lack of execution and skill, not faith or devastation. Our scrub ass skill position players aren't helping our scrub QB by running wrong routes and not blocking people.
If you're going to make a new thread could you at least take the time to make it readable? Never heard of a paragraph?
I think it's fair to say that if you're not pro bowl caliber you're much less likely to have a 7+ year career in the NFL. So the fact that all of the players in question have had very good seasons at one point or another and some of them consistently so is not surprising. What is surprising is that the Jets got so little value out of the 2001 to 2005 drafts that remains on the team. There are some good players that Bradway drafted who play elsewhere, primarily Jonathan Vilma and Santana Moss. But the fact that the Jets have so little value on the roster from their drafts of the last decade is the the single thing that most defines where they are as a franchise right now. You cannot run a successful NFL operation without getting huge input from the draft and on a consistent basis. Teams that have trouble with the draft decline pretty quickly and then have trouble getting back off the mat again and becoming competitive. The Jets basically were a high-priced mirage for 3 seasons running from 2008 to 2010. The only way they're going to use that formula to recover again is if Woody Johnson opens his wallet up wide and starts shoveling cash out of it at a record rate. The last time didn't get us over the hump. This time he's going to have to go full-Steinbrenner to make things work and it will take miracles upon miracles to make that work under the salary cap.
