http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8582735/a-prognostications-rest-nfl-season The Jets probably won't do this, but to me it makes sense logically? Do you think it makes sense even if there is little to no chance of it happening?
I don't think it makes sense to pay him the money he's going to want with or without the injury. We have too many other needs to spend that kind of money on a CB with our cap situation.
This is exactly what I said the day he tore his ACL. If we REALLY want Revis on the team, hit him when he's down. But Revis ain't stupid, and he very well may wait and see how his knee recovers. He seems like the type of dude to gamble on himself, especially if it means $millions$ more down the road.
Revis may never be the same again. I wouldn't give him a guaranteed contract even if it's for less. What if he decides the guaranteed money is enough and training is not worth the risk and effort to actually get back? And if he does get back to his old self, he could always hold out? See what he's like next season and then evaluate from there. he's getting older and some guys lose a step in their late twenties.
Huh? When did Revis make noise about wanting a new contract? That's a lie. What happened was some reporter asked him and he said "no comment" or "I dunno". I guess that means, "Yes I want a new contract". Any article that lies to make a point, can go bone themselves. The only chance we have that Revis walks is if we convincingly make the playoffs (win 7 of last 8 at worst) or Ryan goes too. Don't forget we're only 2 wins from .500. It's not over by a long shot. We need Revis on the outside. You guys have seen Kyle Wilson lately, no? Unless the entire team gets dismantled, Revis stays. Don't forget Revis has a no holdout clause in his contract. If anything, the inury buys us another year before we have to pay him. This will help with cap space next off season. If Revis helps lead us to a SB in 2014 it's a HUGE payday for him. He's well aware of this.
This is exactly right. Revis would take a 90% deal now but what would stop him from holding out after he was back and fully recovered? And what guarantee is there that he comes back and plays at a level that would make the deal good for the Jets anyway?
I say let him rehab and see where he is at next season. By week 8, we will know if he is ok. If healthy, trade him to highest bidder. We need players and not one great player. I don't want to be held hostage by Revis again for the third time.
Ironically, I'm thinking that Cro has done a pretty good job as our #1 CB, and that we could find an upgrade at the other corner and deal Revis for picks. Seriously, our main problems on D this year aren't with the CB position.
I know what you're saying but Revis is the best defensive player in the NFL. A player like this doesn't come round very often for us and to trade him away would be utter madness. If we had both Revis and Cro (on current form), our D would be unstoppable.
Was thinking the exact opposite actually. I'm surprised with the way secondary is holding up so well that there's so little talk about breaking up the Revis/Cro duo (which will costs $19+ Million to maintain). RB, TE, OL, LB are desperately in need upgrades. Adding a 3M or 4M player across the board in these positions would provide a bigger improvement to overall depth & has better chance of improving the Jets record I think. ==== There's so many posts here about how: - WR aren't getting the job done, - OL isn't run-blocking or pass blocking well enough - there's no pass rush - LB are so slow - starting RB has no vision/hands, etc. How about lowering the star power & increasing the overall depth throughout this roster? Instead of 12M on Revis, many of these these holes can be addressed. Or resign Revis & trade Cro now that he's shown the entire league he's a legit #1 CB
Why does Cro + Revis make this defense unstoppable? Please name which teams in the NFL have two game breaking WR & how many of them are in our division. Revis + Cro (talent wise) = elite CB duo. Revis + Cro (cap wise) = a lot of $$ wasted.
If Revis and Cro were playing in OLB position with equal magnitude in defensive effectiveness, I'd say lock them up till they are useless. CBs? You kidding?
If he comes back strong he's probably got another 6 seasons in him also. CB's last forever in the NFL unless they were on the slow end coming into the league.
Well Cromartie has been playing much much better this season than he has in the past. However, two players do not make a defense unstoppable. Laron Landry would help defending Fag and Fagnandez. What would make the defense dominant is a pash rusher that would cause the qb hell when he has nowhere to throw the ball too. I am not really sure what 37-16 game you are referring to. Two players don't make a defense.
They went that route during the Herm era & that didn't work. You end up lacking impact players that win you pivotal match-ups. Depth can't be your greatest strength. You just end up w/ a very average team. Jets are built the right way. Problem is..their high end talent hasn't been able to carry them like they hoped,while they stew over some aging mid range players w/ pricey expiring contracts. They badly lack explosion in some key positions. Explosion is key in today's NFL. Revis is a tough one to call. It's never a good idea to rid your team of an all time great player. Unless of course it's Herschel Walker.
They didn't go that way during the Herm era at all. They had John Abraham, Kevin Mawae and Curtis Martin on the team for the entire era. Those guys were all top 5 at their position for almost the entire period that Herm coached the team. The thing that makes you remember that team as less star power than what came after is that the Jets added no stars through the draft from 2001 to 2005. That was a fault of the personnel department not a plan. They didn't trade up for Dewayne Robertson with the plan in mind of not having huge impact players on the team. They just didn't have the ability to actually go find those guys. As soon as the team that Parcells and Groh put together started to go it was all over for that window because the new management was clueless as to how to maintain the talent level. The Jets have two players on the current roster that are top 5 in Mangold and Revis. They have very little impact talent behind those two and a center and a cornerback aren't winning a Super Bowl.
Who did they offload? Who did they pick up? Are you sure Jets did that during Herm era? By now I have no illusions about how building from the back end can lead to superiority, as opposed to how Ryan has been preaching. Jets are NOT built the right way. When the strength of the defense is the back end, and not the front seven, that means the defense is built upside down. You want a strong front seven that will stop the run AND generate pressure. Jets front seven is a gimped unit - some groupings can stop the run while the other is suited against the pass, but they do not have the base personnel that can adequately cover both grounds effectively. If you are saying this front seven is built right, I don't know what more to tell you. If anything, the performance from the back 4 so far showed that Revis is, indeed expendable, no matter how good he is. Jets lost so far because of the front seven, not because of the back four. Cro has held up his end of the bargain rather excellently so far. But then, Cro is a unique talent as well. All in all, you don't need two of them on one roster. One will be more than sufficient.
