The Loss Was On Sparano

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  1. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    You shouldn't lose games in the 4th Quarter because your OC is an ass****.

    It's one thing to lose a game because of a lousy game plan or because of lousy adjustments or other things that take place over the course of a game over many hours.

    But to lose a game because of 2 critical mistakes in the 4th Quarter is ridiculous.

    Think about it: we got to the 3 yard line because of the rushing game and then on 3rd Down we employ a high-risk passing play ?

    You can't make this stuff up !!! :-(
     
  2. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a Sparano fan at all.

    It's the old," be careful what you wish for" mantra.
    Suddenly we are misty eyed thinking about Schotty.
     
  3. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Nah try #84 if he catches that easy pass from MS the game is over :sad:
     
  4. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    Schotty still sucks balls. In general Sparano's offense is way better with shit for talent.
     
  5. CowboysFan

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    Looks like the jedi mind trick did not work that well. Back to the hogwart's blackboard for you!

    and to the OP , of course it was a bad call.

    Sporano knows it
    Ryan knows it
    Tanny knows it
    Woody knows it
    Sanchez knows it
    Schillenz knows it
    Green knows it
    Tebow knows it
    Hiliard knows it
    Grimes knows it
    McKnight knows it

    I cold go on and on and on...
     
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  6. Big Blocker

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    How exactly is the offense way better?
     
  7. JetsKickAss

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    Mike Lombardi with Lupica: "strange call"
     
  8. LeonNYJ

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    Schotty had superior talent and he did about the same. Sparano doesn't have Thomas Jones or LT with a little bit left in the tank. He doesn't have Braylon and Cotch. He doesn't even have Holmes. He doesn't have Burress as a red zone beast. Plus actually watching Sachez throw the ball more than 5 yards on a regular basis is automatically an upgrade even if the stats don't show it.
     
  9. BillyGreen

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    No sir, coach Sparano called a game plan that put up more passing yards than the Patriots, controlled more time of possession than the Patriots, and caused the Jets to punt only 3 times compared to the Patriots 6 punts, all while his QB was getting sacked four times.


    Nobody is to blame for yesterday because the team exceeded everyone's expectations. Give us back that Patriots kickoff TD run and the Jets actually win this game and it doesn't go to overtime. Coach Sparano did a good job in a tough environment and his offensive crew came out with this heads up.
     
  10. Br4d

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    Actually this is one of the few places where going for it on 4th down is probably a mistake.

    Takes 3 points off the board for you and the opponent will get the ball a play later no matter what you do, which will put the score potential back in their hands, even if they are starting on their own 2 yard line.

    If you're looking purely at the math the logical thing to do on 4th and goal from the 2 is to kick the FG and then on-sides kick. That's probably the highest single potential you can work out on that sequence.
     
  11. JetsKickAss

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    I'm not asking for him to put another 21 points on the board or increase our average-yards-per-rush by 1.5 yards or increase our yards-after-catch by 10 yards per catch.

    I'm asking the guy this: when you have rushed the f****** ball down their throats to the 3 yard line...when 1 yard gets you a 1st down and 3 gets you a TD....why the F*** would you try a high-risk passing play to a player who was #5 on your depth chart 4 months ago ?

    A conventional pass I could undertand (still wrong decision but at least defensible).

    This was ASSININE.......you guys blame Sanchez for an INT and a fumble when he has to make quick decisions with 11 guys trying to take his head off in the span of 4-5 seconds.

    Sparano had his ass on the bench watching the Jets rush the ball all the way down the field.....at some point, does it cross his f****** head that "Gee, we're running the ball pretty well....gee, Sean Greene is 7-for-7 on 3rd and 1s this year....Gee, we just need 1 yard to get 4 more shots at the goal line from the 2.....gee, there's no room there for a quick-slant because if they defend it well or are just all crowded around the guy or bump him within the 5-yard limit, he can't get separation."

    Sparano had 10 minutes to absorb that information and then had 30-40 seconds to call the play.

    And he blew it.

    Yeah, get on Sanchez for being off by 1 second here or there.
     
  12. jack handy

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    Should we give them participation medals? Sorry that was not necessary.

    Because of the loss you have to look at key plays that just did not work. This play was huge. The ball should have been run and not passed out of the gun. You could argue that Sanchez could have opted out of the call or kept himself but tough to defend the call.
     
  13. JetsKickAss

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    I would want to know if Sanchez has the option to overrule the OC. The HC, I would say no, but the OC I want him to be able to change the play at the line.
     
  14. Br4d

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    The ghost of Brian Schottenheimer on the Jets sidelines.

    Why would you go spread with an erratic QB throwing against a compressed defense when you have been running ok on the day and you've been great in short yardage on the year and you really need the 7 pts?

    It's things like this that make me wonder if the Jets aren't an elaborate conspiracy to destroy the will of millions of New Yorkers on a weekly basis every fall and winter.
     
  15. Barcs

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    That play was on Schillens. He should have caught it or at least came out toward the ball a little bit. Schillens has been horrible for us this year. He can't seem to do anything right.
     
  16. Tony

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    I've been fuming about that call since they made it. Stupid stupid STUPID!!! The game would have been won. Just a stupid call.
     
  17. Ozymandias

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    I agree. we have Greene who is 100% from 3rd and short all season, why not use him or even Tebow? should of had a TD there.
     
  18. Acad23

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    You may be on to something here.

    It makes more sense than that play call.
     
  19. Dierking

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    I wrote a couple of weeks ago in one of the Tebow threads that part and parcel of following the Jets is acquiring the deep and unshakeable belief that the primary offensive playcalling is just insane and that you can call a better game from your couch. In fact, I am convinced that I have been doing just that regularly since the mid 80's.

    What's really going on is the team just hasn't been very good. We know with the benefit of hindsight that the plays that were called were bad. We think our plays would have worked. So we are right and the Jets offensive coordinator is on mind altering alkaloids half the time. But that's just appearances, not reality.

    Maybe.
     
  20. Br4d

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    How many teams go spread with no back in the backfield on the 3 yard line with 3rd and 1?

    Ok, now factor in that Sanchez is the QB and it just becomes mind-boggling. The guy is better off of play-action than in the shotgun and he actually can bootleg (and has) in that situation.

    Why would the Jets put him in the shotgun in that situation?

    Yeah he has a slightly better view of the field from that formation but the entire defense has a much better view of him also.
     

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