6 weeks ago someone said,

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  1. TheJetChase

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    Kind of refreshing to read some optimism.
     
  2. Frenbar

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    I bet to differ. If you told any rational person that after 5 wins, their only wins would come vs Miami and Buffalo, I don't think they would have been surprised.

    I support the Jets. I think Ryan has made his mistakes, but he is doing a decent job. The Jets clearly have multiple problems beyond their injuries (which are a big problem). The main problem is Mark Sanchez. I've been saying this for the last year, the Jets will never win consistently with Mark Sanchez. He is the weak link. There's only one player that touches the ball every snap and that's the QB. When the QB sucks, everything else stems from that. The people that point to this hole or that hole on the Jets in defense of Mark Sanchez are delusional. Mark Sanchez has looked like total dog shit. On a team that had a great running game, and a great defense , he could look average (as he did a couple of years ago).

    You will not win with a dog shit quarterback that only looks decent when he is surrounded by an all-star cast. You need a quarterback that looks average with a dog shit cast, and looks amazing with an all-star cast. Unless and until Sanchez is gone, the Jets are moving in the wrong direction.
     
  3. displacedfan

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    You spoke too soon, look what was right below your post :breakdance:

    I just want to make the bye at 4-4. That is all. I don't care how we do it, but 4-4 at the break means 3-1 in the division or even 4-0 if the strangest of strange happens
     
  4. JetsFanDoc

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    I think if they were 2-3 and Sanchez had a 60% completion percentage, people wouldn't be bitching. Everybody is just frustrated that he continues to struggle to put together a consistent wire to wire game with this putrid surrounding crew. Every time it looks like he figures it out, somebody drops a ball, somebody tips a ball (admittedly Sanchez's fault), somebody runs the wrong route.

    BOTTOM LINE: It is VERY VERY hard for a team with this lack of talent on the outside to generate any consistent offense without a good running attack. And make no mistake folks, this is the worst ground game in the NFL. THE worst. Thats what Sanchez is dealing with. He's an average QB right now with the worst offensive personnel in football surrounding him...thats not going to end well against good competition. People want to solve this by subbing in a waaaay below average QB in Tebow? Thats not gonna end well against anybody.
     
  5. Br4d

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    Yeah, pretty much this.

    The real problem though is that the QB is the face of the offense and so if the offense is weak and misfiring there's no way the QB isn't getting the blame for that. Even if the talent around him is highly contributory to the overall mess.

    There are some screw-ups that are so deeply embedded in the matrix, often way above the QB's pay grade, that no QB is going to swim through them.

    The Broncos scored more points per game last year with Orton at QB. You could look it up. But the defense wasn't healthy and so he was a lousy leader. Then Tebow got put in at about the same time the defense rounded into form with players returning from injury and he was a miracle worker.

    When Sanchez gets benched this year the guy who is really getting benched is Mike Tannenbaum. You just can't actually do that because he's not on the field and it wouldn't do anything. Next off-season though, Tannenbaum will still be on the bench, or worse.
     
  6. JetsFanDoc

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    I really think this has to be Tannenbaum's mess. He needs to be the one to take the heat and the blame. Rex is a football coach...he's not really supposed to be the type of guy who's going to concomitantly run the personnel decisions and football schemes at the same time. Thats just not what he is. He needs a good GM working over him that is able to find offensive talent. Tannenbaum isn't that, has NEVER been that. He's a salary cap guy.
     
  7. MurrellMartin

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    It's the way they've lost, and the injuries to Revis and Holmes, that makes people feel like 6-10 is more realistic than 9-7, 10-6, and guess what? It is. This team is not making the playoffs. I'm getting ready to celebrate a win against Indianapolis this Sunday, because it'll be the last time we win at home this season and I'm going to take advantage of it, but after that, it's back to losing for awhile. Heck, maybe we won't even win this one.
     
  8. jerseyjay14

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    the first win we got we were pretty healthy, and the miami win we got extremely lucky before getting stomped 2 games in a row and then leaving a ton of plays on the field(which is what bad teams do) against the texans.

    we are 2-3 now, but looking at the schedule we will likely be 2-7 or 3-6 shortly
     
  9. jerseyjay14

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    couldnt disagree more. if we continute to get only 7 points from the offense, continue to miss wide open WRs, continute to turn it over in the redzone, continue to waste timeouts, continue to let teams run all over us, etc we will lose badly almost every week.

    that kick return made it look alot closer then it was.
     
  10. jerseyjay14

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    the bills has the worst defense in football.

    the dolphins are awful

    we got one of the worst beatdowns in franchise history against SF

    we got shutout for like 45 mins by the steelers

    brining our absolute A-game vs the texans, getting a kick return TD, we still lost ot the texans, at home.

    i see no reason for optomism. our qb is playing awful. we cant run. we cant stop the run, we cant get to the QB, and we turn it over way to often. our punter is also having an awful season.

    5-6 wins max
     
  11. championjets69

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    No RR is the guy on the hot seat for MS :sad:
     
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    Really why is the record important when we will not make the POs :sad:
     
  13. Ajitator

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    The record is important cause it determines who makes the playoffs. Though if it were based off of negativity the JETs would be in the superbowl. We're 2-3. Yea we don't have superstars on the roster, yea our talent is thin... Who cares. We're still in this season until we're not, regardless of how much you all want to count us out now after 5 weeks.

    Cue the rose colored glasses wearing homer comments, but at this point, I'm pretty convinced that most of you enjoy complaining and telling people who are obviously smarter then you are ( cause that's their job ) what they're doing wrong more then you enjoy watching / rooting for the JETS.

    Guess the sooner I realize this the better. I'll be rooting for the team until the season is actually over.


    Go "root" for the Jaguars if you're determined to be so miserable.
     
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    you are equalling a faltering running game with injuries, as if that would pass and is a matter of bad luck.
    Sorry but the injuries to Revis and Holmes were season ending and the running game will not be fixed (most people saw it on this board 5 weeks ago as well as 13 mths ago).
    We should still keep our heads up but lets agree that we are in trouble, 2-3 or not.
     
  15. championjets69

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    From that 1st paragraph U R saying that the NYJs stink which is saying exactly what I have been saying since Jan. For me the season is SB or bust so that means they are losers if they do not win the SB so in this case the record has no BEARING since our season will end with NO POs so it is time for U to take your super homer glasses of & come into the real NYJ FB world :sad:
     
  16. HoffaLiesBeneath

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    Don't forget, Carpenter missed 2 FGs vs Miami. That was a must-win game and the Jets played very poorly. Luckily Carpenter missed those FGs.

    If Jets were 1-4 right now would the anti-Tebow starting sentiment be as strong? Sanchez starting job hanging by a thread. 2 missed FGs by Miami and McKnights 100 yd return are keeping him safe. That is pitiful.

    I am not a Sanchez basher. I been a Sanchez apologist for past 3 years. It's just time for a change.

    Rex Ryan favorite quote. "I bet Mark wishes he had 1 or 2 of those throws back." He's been saying this for 4 years!!!!! Enough
     
  17. Barcs

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    I already broke the stats down. The Dolphins are NOT awful, far from it.
     
  18. GQMartin

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    I said the Dolphins sucked in the threads leading up to the Jets game.

    I was wrong. Their defense is better than the Jets and their run D is top 4.
     
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    This should be the case, i.e. 4-4.
    In fact, the Jets schedule, which I am about to post about, is the best thing we have going for us. If we can get our act together, we can have decent season.
     
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    Hey there, I have to root for the Jags AND the Jets, so everybody should really feel sorry for me LOLZ! I was glad we didn't get shut out by the Texans on Monday Night Football, but we definitely blew some chances to win. Since I'm a newbie Jets fan, I've gotta ask: Is this what happens all season long? Does Sanchez play a close game and lose anyway, or win in spite of himself? I can understand your frustration if this is what goes on game after game, season after season. Clue me in - was it foolish for me to think we might actually beat the Texans during that game? Did I waste some adrenaline and pheromones on the Jets?
     

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