Tipped passes at the line occur because...

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  1. catfish

    catfish New Member

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    you cant let 1 guy eliminate half the field though. Throwing away from a CB like Revis makes sense, but with a wingspan that Watt has throwing where he cant reach it basically mean 50% of the field is gone.
     
  2. catfish

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    I would agree with you on this one, if there was a way to stop Watt other teams would do it. There are 31 teams in the league that wish they had someone like him. He is super athletic and also very smart...tough combo to beat
     
  3. DoubleDown11

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    LMFAO! Sorry...this post killed me. :up: :rofl:
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he beat his man, he had to lean back in stride and the defender got a hand on it. Very difficult catch on what should have been an easy catch if thrown in the right spot.

    I'd like to see it again, if someone can post a link.
     
  5. tank75

    tank75 Well-Known Member

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    ok so i named the wrong scrub receiver we through out there, big deal. the ball was perfectly in stride, that was the problem. he needed to put it in front of the receiver so the defender didnt have a chance to knock the ball way. the defender was right on hill (happy?) as he went for the ball. put it out front and the defenders hand doesnt get in there and disrupt the throw. you could place the ball a million times better.
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It was very slightly under thrown but it was a good pass. The shitty receiver dropped it, like they have many of Sanchezes passes this year. If Sanchez threw as good of a pass to Cromartie it probably would have been a TD.
     
  7. catfish

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    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012100800/2012/REG5/texans@jets#menu=highlights&tab=recap

    he doesn't break stride, the defender never gets a hand on it, it hits him in the face. the defender makes up ground at the last minute, but the runner never slows down except when he turns his shoulder to catch the ball, that is as good a pass as you will see any qb in the league throw including the top 5 guys, to argue that it was innacurate is stupid
     
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  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    anything other than nfl.com? I am having flash issues on my work computer.

    going by your description and what I saw, it hit his face. he had to slow down and lean back making it a more difficult catch. he had his man beat w/ no safety, you couldn't ask for an easier throw. That ball has to be in front of him not behind him or on top of him.
     
  9. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Dude, Watts got you so angry?
     
  10. DemoIsland

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    In stride, in his hands, defender never touched it, receiver just dropped it. That is a difficult catch? So slightly leaning back is too much to ask for from an NFL receiver? C'mon man!

    It was a perfect ball, he has to catch it.
     
  11. catfish

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    nothing up yet, I will keep looking throughout the day and see what I can find
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It was a good pass but like Sanchez Tebow is crippled by the receivers available to him.

    Why does everybody not understand this? Sanchez completed just over 50% of his passes in training camp and Tebow just under 40% because everybody was hurt and the WR's just blew chunks.

    Now we're in the regular season and right back in the same situation.

    If Chad Pennington was the QB on this team he'd be under 60% completions and we'd all be screaming by now because of all the bobbled passes by the backs when Chad tried to find an outlet under pressure.

    This is just a terrible set of personnel on the offensive side of the ball. You can't defend them based on a play here and there where everything clicks right. This is the NFL. You're losing the game if everything doesn't click perfectly 80% of the time and the Jets don't have the personnel to do that.

    The defense takes away a lot of plays where the offense does nothing wrong. To have the offense misfiring on it's own on 40% of the plays is enough to kill you every time.
     
  13. laxin

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    Remember that play where we were on about the 8 yard line, Sanchez drops back, Chaz is supposed to run some sort of in and then bounce back out route and Sanchez throws to where Chaz should have been, in the corner of the end zone?

    Schillens ran a terrible route and was not where he had to be. Sanchez tried the look left and then come back and throw it to the right immediately after (as you said Brady and Brees do so often), and what happened? His receiver wasnt where he needed to be.

    Ever think that Sanchez has to look at the receiver he's throwing to because they are terrible, run poor routes and he has zero chemistry with them? Brees and Colston could run their whole playbook together blind folded because they have incredible chemistry. Kerley is the longest tenured Jet WR and has been here not even 2 years... Look at their success together vs every other receiving option. Its night and day.
     
  14. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Four of them against the Jets, Sanchez is an idiot, how many times are you going to throw directly at this guy? Ever heard of a pump fake, get him in the air and move?
     
  15. catfish

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    not arguing that Tebow should be starting, not even saying Sanchez had a bad game, because he actually played pretty well. Drops killed them. Just saying it was a good pass and he should get credit for it, it doesn't take anything away from Sanchez at all, he has zero help around him and is did the best he could given what he is working with.
     
  16. chinopec

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    doesnt sanchez always throw directly to the defensive lineman. Look at last week with the screen to Green. Also the pass to chaz last nite that was tipped by watt shouldnt have happened, look where sanchez was throwing to and where chaz was. chaz was in the middle of the end zone and it looked like sanchez was throwing behind him. sanchez either throws balls too high and too much zip, he has no touch. and the the throw to cro was garbage, he was wide open. and to hear sanchez explanation was hilarious, a tad more inside really.
     
  17. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Im not a Sanchez defender but guys like JJ Watt do this to everyone
     
  18. chinopec

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    Yes watt does do it to everyone but you make sure you aware of him. Every paper had an article stating you have to account for him. its like sanchez didnt even know he was there. Watt is a great player but there are things the QB can do and sanchez does not do him. two huge mistakes before halftime two games in a row, a 1 or 2nd year QB ok, but not a QB in his 4th year.
     
  19. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Once shame on him, twice shame on me, four times well your're a fucking moron.
     
  20. Jetaho

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    Watching the Saints game Sunday night, Collinsworth made an interesting observation. I know, that in itself is shocking, but he said that the Saints have focused on building their OLine from the inside out (center/guards) to enable them to move defenders out of passing lanes and allow the 6' Brees to step up into the pocket.

    It seemed like Brees always has room to step up into the pocket and deliver a throw without defenders in his face. Of course, a lot of that is because Brees is so good at moving around in the pocket, and Sanchez is no where near that level. Nevertheless, I thought the premise (strong interior line blocking designed to create throwing lanes) was interesting and something that we either need to implement more or do better.
     

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