Jets ruined sanchez

Honestly, I wish they didn't call him the "Sanchize". He didn't earn the QB spot, he was given it. When Sanchez stuggles, he had no competition. Mark Brunnell is not a "back up" he is "friend." They should of stick with Kellen Clemens as the back-up. And honestly, if they signed Kyle Orton or even Brady Quinn, he would still implode because those guys can actually take his job. Also the biggest mistake was giving him an extension, even though it freed up cap space. Like Damien Woody said, it is rewarding mediocrity!

 

He was never allowed to take control of the offense. He was pushed into this role of a game manager, when he should have been more of a gunslinger. Allowed to make his mistakes but learn from them, something he was never given the chance to do. Some guys will make a mistake, go back out there and recover, he makes a mistake and just snowballs.

At this point we know he'll never be anything better than average, but I think it's partly his own flaws plus the lack of proper development

 

It was just one more bad pick by Tannenbaum..you don't take somebody with one year of college experience and immediately start him in the NFL..at least most people wouldn't even consider it. Something happened between the end of 2010 and the beginning of 2011 that completely destroyed him.

 

Go watch 2010 and come back and try to say that with a straight face. Go back and watch those games. The throws he made and the strikes he was throwing, he was throwing much better. He still had similar problems, they just didn't crop up as often. Season 3 he played well too but was inconsistent and collapsed at the end of the season.
Season 2 games that we haven't seen in a while:

21/30, 3 TD, 220 yards, no INT
15/28 3 TD, 256 yards, no INT
14/24, 2 TD, 161 yards, no INT
22/39, 1 TD, 336 yards, 1 INT
22/38, 3 TD, 315 yards, 1 INT
16/24 3 TD, 194 yards, 0 INT

Look at those. We haven't seen that type of play in a while. The inconsistent accuracy existed, but he played much better.

Yep. He was never a game manager. He's more Cutler/Romo/Big Ben/Eli than a game manager. WIll make some dumb throws and mistakes but sling it around the field. They tried to force him in to a game manager, he could not adapt, and it stunted his development. He also isn't good enough to overcome the restrictions placed on him.

 

Thats what im talking about bro, hes a freaking baby.the jets deserves better and he doesn't need to be in the team. Baby!

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I bet a lot of college QBs wished that the Jets "ruined" them like they did Sanchez. Jets have a lot of nerve giving him a starting job with tons of job security, and a huge contract this year. How dare they mistreat Sanchez like that?

 

And the slowly take away his reliable weapons and down grade the team around. Every football player gets a good contract if drafted in the first round, especially if you were drafted pre the rookie wage scale.

They didn't give him a huge contract. They extended him which spread money over the cap and made him easier to cut if need be.

Him and Flacco started in the same place basically. Similar QBs. The Ravens built around their QB the Jets tore down what surrounded their QB after 2 years.

 

yep. stop gap aging vets and crumbs from the draft is all sanchez gets.
this is one of my fears with rex is he will always be willing to neglect the offense to chase the 85 bears and 2000 ravens defensive legacy

 

Yeah the personnel wasn't maintained. You don't remove weapons that a QB is familiar with. Instead of resigning our own, we chased Aso. Rex Ryan and his fucking obsession with corners, that was prob a Rex move, and just neglected the offense all together and just gave Sanchez scraps.

 

Thread 100% factual.

How do you expect a QB to learn under Brian Schottenheimer? The same OC who Brett Favre himself said had a shit system.

The Jets change receivers every season.

They drilled in his head not to scramble.

They drilled in his head to play perfect mistake free football.

Sanchez was set up to fail.

 

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Jets front office is just straight up fucking stupid

It's infuriating to watch this stupid shit over and over

 

The biggest problem with Sanchez is that he's "football stupid". I have no idea how well he grasps other things in life, but he's just not smart on the field. He doesn't understand the concept of taking care of the ball, no matter how hard they try to drill it into his head. The guy just doesn't seem to have any situational awareness. He's got plenty of physical ability, but he makes more unforced dumb throws than any QB I've ever seen.

 

You can tell who is a Jets fan and who is just a Sanchez fan

 

Blame it on the OC for Sanchez having terrible accuracy

 

There is absolutely no reason to suggest that the Jets ruined Sanchez. If anything, they actually put him into positions to succeed in his first two years, giving him an inflated sense of worth, which he cannot live up to...so far, anyway. If you cannot handle adversity well, then you are not really franchise material, no?

Also, Sanchez's time is not over. We'll see what he does, but he's not looking good right now. He's never been able to do all that much without a LOT of help, and that's something some Jets fans wanted to turn a blind eye on for a while.

Whatever take you had on the past, a lot of the pressure is on the QB position with the Jets this year. I really don't think that was the case during the two Championship games...last year, more pressure was placed on Sanchez, and he did not step up. The more he is asked to do, the worse he looks...at least this is my honest opinion based on his general support from the rest of the team.

Lots of Jets fans are going to want to make excuses for Sanchez again, if this continues. Holmes out...Revis out. Whatever. Sanchez has not completed even half of his passes this year. Accuracy has always been a concern with him.

 

But at times he has great accuracy

Did you not see the video posted? Did you not see the Bills game? His problem is consistency which falls on the coaching staff.

 

The lockout followed by improvisational personnel management and very poorly done by the Jets.

 

How does a lack of consistency fall on the coaching staff? He is the one playing the position! Sanchez is the one dropping back, throwing the passes, evaluating what he sees in the opposing defense, making audibles, etc. In regards to his performance as playing the quarterback position Sanchez is first in line to receive credit, and blame. I'm not going to praise the coaching staff when he has a good game, and I'm not going to blame the coaching staff when he personally in the fundamentals of the position has a poor game.


But addressing this thread as a whole, I get the feeling many here would not be content with Sanchez's supporting cast until he has Adrian Peterson in the backfield, with Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall at the 1 and 2 WR spots, oh and Antonio Gates at TE. The NFL isn't like this, you can't just acquire stars that happen to meet your needs. The Jets re-signed Holmes, in hind sight they probably should have let Holmes go and retained Edwards, but with that said they drafted Kerley who looks promising both on offense and special teams, not to mention Stephen Hill who I think has an enormously high ceiling. Having someone like Holmes is better than what a lot of young QBs are getting in the NFL, there are only a handful of truly top tier WRs.

The Jets aren't in great cap shape to sign high price free agents with contracts like Revis's and Sanchez's, we are all complaining about Tanny and not putting enough talent on this roster and I agree, but mostly in regards to drafting. Wasted picks like Ducasse, and trading away draft picks for "okay" players is a stain on Tanny's record as GM. The Jets have one of the lowest retention rates of the people they draft, and this is a statement about the poor scouting and GM work. But I am not going to get on Tannenbaum for faults in the free agency department, if there was a legit elite WR that the Jets could acquire for the right price, I have no doubt in my mind Tanny would be after him, but where is such a WR? Braylon was hurt last off season, and his lack of production showed, Randy Moss has been a relative non factor this year, TO and Ochocinco are considered untouchable by the entire league. So where are these supposed weapons that Tanny should have acquired for Sanchez? These weapons that are supposedly going to make him into the good QB many here seem to think he is.

 

They set him well the first two years, completely agree, but after that? I don't know what they saw that Sanchez could carry an offense after two years. He can't. He isn't good enough. He's not elite. The Jets either thought he was or thought they could skate by taking weapons away from him.

Again with the word excuses. There are reasons Sanchez isn't good. Some fall on him, some don't. These reasons. Excuses would be "well it was windy so let's give Sanchez a break" or "everybody has a couple poor days of work, these are Sanchezs". Then are reason to maybe why he hasn't developed. Some of that falls on Sanchez himself, but you are crazy if you think its mostly the FO/CS fault or mostly Mark's fault. They are probably equally to blame.

Sanchez played his best when we put talent around him. He played well late in games and won us a couple games that we were trying to give away. He played well when we needed him and rarely showed up small in his second year. What happened from then to now? I would say Sanchez himself didn't take big strides but also the offense has gotten worse and so has the overall team. I'm not putting the whole offense getting worse just on Sanchez.

The Jets for some reason thought they could diminish the talent around their QB and still improve their offense. Recently, this has NOT worked. Elite QBs can successfully win in the regular season without much help. Not elite QBs need help to win in the regular season. All QBs need help to make a successful playoff run. A successful playoff run being a SB win. The Jets went away from this strategy because most likely they over evaluated the talent they had. They thought Sanchez would improve enough to offset BRaylon leaving. They thought Sanchez would imrpvoe enough to offset Cotch going and the run game diminshing. They were wrong and I don't know why that should be the line of thinking in the first place. If they thought Sanchez could carry theo ffense, why not surround him with more weapons to make the offense more potent? That's why every other team tries to do, even with elite QBs.

The Jets had a flawed approach from the top after the second year with Sanchez and that was detrimental to Sanchez's development. Sanchez definitely deserves blame for not improving drastically and blame for the offenses struggle but there has to be blame to other units and more specifically the FO. It isn't all on him and anyone who thinks so is going to be in for a shock if we change QBs only next season and nothing changes.