Mangini Addresses The Penalties

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  1. Section 227. Row 5

    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    I am so glad Mangini is making an issue of the penalties Friday night. Someone else posted a NY Times article in another thread about this, but here it is again in a little more detail in the sports section of The Star-Ledger. Interestingly, he doesn't mention Miller, but rips Jolley a new @sshole:


    http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/115683105968420.xml&coll=1


    Mangini Frowning On Jolley's Miscues
    Tuesday, August 29, 2006
    BY COLIN STEPHENSON
    Star-Ledger Staff

    HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- Coach Eric Mangini isn't happy with the play of veteran tight end Doug Jolley.

    Asked yesterday about Jolley's performance throughout the preseason, Mangini unloaded on the fifth-year pro, ripping him for the unsportsmanlike-conduct penalty he took in Friday's preseason game against the Giants.

    "The frustrating thing about the other night -- and we talked about this extensively, and it's really unacceptable -- was the personal foul on the sideline," Mangini said. "There's no need to hit anybody after they're out of bounds. If you want to make a statement, then you make a statement when the ball is in play. I don't condone those actions -- that's selfish, and hurts the team. I made that very clear to him."


    Jolley, the 6-4, 250-pounder for whom the Jets traded a second-round pick to the Oakland Raiders before the 2005 season, has had a less than stellar camp.

    Asked specifically about Jolley's blocking yesterday, Mangini talked around the question, rather than answer it.

    "You know, it's been -- he's been in different roles, because he's played both on the line and in the backfield, and that's been a transition," Mangini said. "The runs are similar, but you're coming at it from a different place -- when you're two or three yards in the backfield -- it's new. So there's been a little bit of a learning curve with that." Mangini was asked what he said to rookie OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson after the first-round pick was flagged for a false start in the first quarter Friday. "I just said to him, 'Five-second rule, Brick. Five-second rule. Forget it. It's in the past -- focus on the next play. That's the most important play,'" Mangini said. Ferguson said he is working to correct his mistakes and is looking forward to Friday's final preseason game against Philadelphia. "Every game to me is important," he said. "It's just a matter of correcting the things that didn't go well and continuing to grow up on the things that did go well."Asked about the likelihood of Curtis Martin being activated off the physically unable to perform list before the Sept. 10 regular-season opener, Mangini offered no new information. "I think that both (Martin) and Trey (Teague) are doing well and the status could change between now and opening day for either guy," the coach said. A decision has to be made on the two players' status before rosters are cut down to the final 53 by 4 p.m. Saturday. If a player remains on the PUP after that, he is ineligible to play for the first six weeks of the season. Newly acquired RB Kevan Barlow, who arrived from San Francisco in a trade last week, changed his jersey number to 32. Barlow wore No. 36 when he first arrived, because DB D.J. Johnson had No. 32 at the time. Johnson was cut on Sunday, so Barlow took the number, which he wore in San Francisco.
     
  2. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    Good. One staple of a bad team is penalties that kill drives and momentum. Even the worst team has guys good enough and fast enough to make plays, but they neutralize that by dumb penalties. Justin Miller gave the Giants a TD with his stupidity, Jolley jumped offsides to kill a drive in the red zone a couple weeks back, too.

    Herm was good about keeping the penalties down, of course he had more of a veteran team, too. Hopefully Mangini stressing it will garner the same result.
     
  3. rajensen088

    rajensen088 Banned

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    Mangini's record in NE shows the his players continue to make dumb mistakes. Under Mangini the Patriots were the 5th most penalized team in the NFL. It's one thing to keep the media uniformed about where his players stand, quite another when most of the players have no clue where they stand with hte coaching staff.

    Screaming and yelling calling players out in public for every mistake like it was a capital crime is moronic. Just leads to players who overthink thrying not to make a single mistake and as a result continue to make mistakes.

    Just look at his record with the Patriots defense last year, his first with total control over a unit:

    2004 penalties:

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=13
     
  4. DariusVassell

    DariusVassell Member

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    17 penalties more for a combined 87 yards....how many do you suppose were false start penalties on the offense which Mangini had no control over?

    Really scraping the bottom of the barrell nowadays are'nt we?:rofl:
     
  5. oktaren

    oktaren Banned

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    what are you, some sort of mommas boy?
     
  6. Section 227. Row 5

    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    You're new here, oktaren, so you don't know enough to laugh off most of these comments. Most of us know better than to waste our keystrokes trying to address the absurd. Think of it as an interesting excersise in the study of bizarre human behavior... the desire to visit a board and invite trouble... even manufacture negativity if need be, then patiently wait for a response in order to engage in absolute drivel.

    I think my closet needs cleaning...
     
  7. Uhm a Jets Fan

    Uhm a Jets Fan New Member

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    uhhhh...........yea?
     
  8. Jetcane

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    Good advice.

    //files away for future reference//
     
  9. Jetzz

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    Not that I support the resident troll's argument, but that link he posted looks like it shows team defense stats... so those penalties (132 for 1068 yd) would be all defensive penalties. On offense, the Pats had 110 for 921 yards.

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    In fact I think it is probably worthy to point out that the Pats had lost a few starters in the secondary, and it is possible that their having more mistakes that year could have been that result. I wouldn't know though, you would have to ask a Pats fan for better advice there.
     
  10. Italian Seafood

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    On the plus side, we no longer have a guy in our secondary with a penalty named after him.
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    do you think when they get married Herm will become Herm Law or will ty be Ty edwards?
     
  12. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    GO JETS!


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