Now that, my friends, is a GREAT throw. Hahaha Thanks for posting this abyzmul. It clearly shows Tim was doing his part, unless ofc you feel Tim should have caught that early duck as the ball and the defenders hand hit his helmet.
I don't know why people are so suprised that he struggles in any position other than QB. They had him practicing at QB all off season, you cant just magically have route awareness just becasue they put you at WR. I am on the if he isnt at QB he should be on the bench wagon
What I'm saying is that a lot of people are hyped up on Tebow (you seem to be one of them) based on what he did last year. By comparison this year he has done virtually nothing. He hasn't remotely lived up to the hype. You can't deny that and if you do it's proof that you are just completely blind when it comes to Tebow. If you had to rank the contribution of every player on the roster where would Tebow come in? Top 10? No. Top 20? Doubt it. He might be in the top 30, at the tail end of the pack (like 27th or 28th). Maybe even on the other side of 30. Even guys who have barely been on the field for a snap or special teams guys have been much more useful than he has. If you, or any other Tebowite, disagree then seriously list the players that Tebow has contributed more than. I'd really like to see that.
compare his contribution to the other 60 some odd bacjup QB's in the league. He is playing at a position that is a dead roster spot for 90% of teams in the league, any contribution at all is better than most teams get. It is a stupid argument to say the backup qb didn't contribute to the offense signifigantly. He has recovered an onside kick, converted a fake punt for a first down, caused 2 teams to burn timeouts and had a 22 yard run. He has had a few negative plays as well, but overall I think it is a net positive. Once again point out any backup who has contributed more he is rushing for 3.3 ypa and has made some plays when they were needed, i fail to see why people keep acting like he is single handedly responsible for the offensive struggles.
Whose hype, Rex's, Tony's? Catfish makes the salient points based on Tim's performance, no? In this message board virtually all of the err Tebowite hype is 'Tim can contribute more than his detractors say'. The Mods. have done a decent job at keeping the Tim psychos out.
the obvious awnser is yes, based on the fake punt conversion alone. that extended the drive and eventually resulted in 3 points. overall, i didnt think they gave him much of a chance to make an impact, and as i said in the other thread, its criminal that they dont use him more in short yardage, especially with how we have struggled their thus far. we dont need to see tebow under center on 2nd and 10. we need to see him on 3rd and 2, or 2nd and 4, that sort of thhing. thats where he is going to provide the most value
Tebow isnt a third string running back out of hofstra who has never thrown a pass. he has thrown plenty of passes in the NFL and at florida. at the very least he can throw to the extent that brad smith does, or that someone liek antwan randle el does. i can understand if you dont want tebow dropping back and throwing 30 times a game, but he is certainly capable of throwing it a couple times a game, especially in a 1 or 2 read option type play
haha.... i know its just coincidence or whatever... but the amount of late missed FG by opponents and overtime coin toss wins in tebows favor in his short career seems isnane
this is maybe the dumbest post in the history of this message board. Tebow getting sacked forced sanchez to throw an interception? if you gonna get sacked just chuck it up? how about your in the redzone, dont just chuck it up cause a turnover costs you 3 points. how about just because you are on the 7 yard line instead of the 3 yardline doesnt mean you have to throw a pick. and if you want to blame anyone, blame cumberland for not running the underneath route properly
absolutely. tebow is our best bet in short yardage. and if he starts picking them up you can really start to work off that. tebow on third and short with 5 wide recievers is tough to match up against, cause tebow is going to grind out 2 yards against a 5 or 6 man front more times then now. and if you stack it, someone is uncovered early in the play. eihter way using him on first and 10 or second and 10 seems like poor usage. start with what he does well, and build from there
The down side to your suggestion is 1. it's becomes predictible and then is neutralizable and 2. suggest Mark can't do the job on his own. The Mark part would likely feed a Mark meltdown.
Seeing it like that, it's not as bad as I remembered it. If anything, Sanchez almost got that route jumped -- as he acknowledged in post game, he shouldn't have thrown it. That kind of play doesn't seem suited for Tebow, for many reason. For one thing, Tebow draws attention. You tend to assume if they've got him in there, he's a threat. And he's obviously not going to be used for downfield routes at this point (maybe ever). So the defender is thinking "If they do anything, they'll throw him a short one and let him run people over. I'll just jump the route." There's no downside for the defender in going all out towards Tebow on that route. And Tebow needed to turn quicker and fight for the first down, but that's a pretty advanced play for a tight end, the quick turn and the ball's there. And I think there's probably no way he catches a back shoulder bullet no matter when he turns.
I also thought Tebow ducked the ball, but the ball hit his helmet first. His head ducked after he felt the ball hit it.
i dont see how tebow being a short yardage specialist causes a problem for sanchez. no differnt then going 3 TE and plowing it ahead. we converted, get mark back in the huddle for first down
i didnt think that play as as bad as everyone made it out. the ball was slightly high and behind and the defender did get a hand close to it. for a guy whose never played TE, thats not a pass you would think he should make no problem. he had alot more space on that same route 2 or 3 times early. i think thats why they tried to go to it. still wasnt happy throwing to tebow on 3rd and short if its not uncovered though
last year he was a starting QB who took 99% of the snaps and had 45 or 50 opportunties a game to make an impact. this year he is used all over, and in maybe 6-12 snaps a game, most of which he never touches the ball. its much harder to make an impact. id say based on the amount of touches, he has played well. this week he converted a fake punt on 4th down and forced a timeout. last week 3 touches, had a 22 yard run. week one a few short runs, mostly a decoy. he is going to help in one way or another each week. he isnt going to make a big impact unless he is put in situations that allow it.
its really difficult to nuetralize a good short yardage back/runner. i mean in those situations you are already selling out run most of the time anyhow. but those short yardage guys seem to still make it happen. tebow has had several issues in the league, short yardage has never really seemed to have been one. it also cant be much worse then what we have had in those situations mark isnt a runningback. i dont think it would really shake him much if tebow picked up a 3rd and 1 as opposed to greene picking it up. especially when his drive gets extended because of it. 1) until tebow is making a ton of plays, throwing the ball, i cant see mark having a meltdown 2) if mark does have a meltdown, that really speaks to his makeup. if you cant handle tebow coming in to run on 3rd and 2, you probably dont have what it takes
If this ball had been catchable, a strong argument could be made for calling pass interference. The defender hit Tim's helmet.
