Apologists and their excuses for Sanchez’s failures

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  1. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    I'm still on board with Sanchez. 100%
     
  2. RevisXt

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    All of the Sanchez haters refuse to look at him objectively. They looked at the Bills game and thought the Bills suck so that doesn't count, but somehow the Steelers game is the perfect judging platform? He started out great and had a few very good drives/plays. Even if he played great against the Steelers and we won, the first off day he'd have these guys would be all over him. There's no point in arguing when the other people aren't listening!
     
  3. Big Blocker

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    I was just wondering, and I wasn't going to go here except I smell a double standard. First of all, putting aside your standard here, that you have to post in good times in order to post in bad, I think you might disagree with the OP, but his is not an unreasonable position. Sanchez is the starting Qb in his fourth year and makes plenty of money. he is also inconsistent and this is a problem. Nothing to argue with there.

    But this good times and bad times posting standard. Does that only apply if you want to question a Jet player? Does it only apply after losses?

    Last week there were quite a few posts here comparing Sparano and the O favorably to Schotty and the Rams O. This week? Not so much. Should those people going on and on last week not be here this week to continue the comparison?

    I don't think so. It's fine with me they are quiet. I would be, too, if I were them.

    That leaves the question what the standard is. I don't see any forum rules about it. I also don't think it has any but a limited rhetorical usefulness, and proves nothing on teh substance and merits of the argument.

    The homers here don't get to set the rules of behavior any more than the darksiders do, as far as I can tell. Or at least they shouldn't.
     
  4. jerseyjet0912

    jerseyjet0912 Banned

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    fuck mark sanchez. i expected a lot more from a top 10 pick than hoping against hope every week that he wont do something stupid to cost us the game. for christ sake dalton, newton, bradford, luck, and rg3 all look better than him and theyve all played varying degrees of less games. he has no ability to pick up the blitz, no arm strength, limited accuracy, no ability to read the coverage, rarely looks off a defender and telegraphs his passes, hes skittish in the pocket and holds the ball too long. and if theres anything im more tired off than sanchez doing all of these things, its fans making excuses for him. hopefully this is his last year as a jet
     
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  5. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    By no means I feel Sanchez is where he needs to be, but your analysis, particularly relevent to the last game is absolute nonsense. He had a perfect strike to Hill for a sure TD that did not happen, 5 passes or more for at least a first down that were dropped after hitting them in the numbers. He avoided numerous rushes to continue the play and he had no freaking running game nor any separation from the WR. The big difference if you watched any of the other games like the Giants, Atlanta, Carolina, Washington, Detroit you name iI is that the receiver caught the freaking passes and made the QB look good. Our WR core absolutely sucked, starting with the most overpaid average WR ever...Mr Holmes.
     
  6. jerseyjet0912

    jerseyjet0912 Banned

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    if you arent where you need to be by year 4 its never gonna happen
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I remember when everyone was saying Eli was a bust in his 4th season. They were almost right except that he's probably a lock for the HOF now.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    No, don't you know every QB is automatically good or bad. Nobody is allowed to develop and any reason to say why a QB's development is stunted is excuses not reasons. :breakdance:

    Sanchez is a good enough QB to QB THIS team to a Super Bowl. I don't think he is good enough to make up for weaknesses yet, but neither is Ryan or Flacco close to equals. Maybe Stafford can hide weaknesses as a QB but his magic seems to be faltering this season.
     
  9. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez played bad this week as did alot of other Jets. The Receivers were to fault for a ton of the offensive problems. That said:

    My views on it, if your a member of the forum, you post what you want. support the team through good and bad becasue thats what we are here for. To Talk Jets football, and post pics of polar bears and Pizza (or in your case, old chicks :lol:). If your simply trolling you show up only at the times when the current events support your negative views. We may agree to disagree, but when someone only posts after a loss, it reaks of trolling behavior.

    Much of the darkside crowd is around win or lose. The OP on the other hand is really not. He was no where to cheeer for our week one win, yet shows up all doom and gloom after one loss. I think he is nothing more than a troll. I may be wrong, if so he can change my opinion of him by simply posting more when we win;.
     
  10. jerseyjet0912

    jerseyjet0912 Banned

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    eli never had the glaring holes in his game that sanchez does.
     
  11. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Oh really? Care to explain why many were calling him a bust then? They just didn't like his face i guess.

    Truth is, you and ouchy would have wanted him long gone in 07 had he been a Jet.
     
  12. displacedfan

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    Yes he did. They showed up this week too. Eli had the same shocked after big hits, let things spiral, throw bad passes with bad footwork too. People don't remember it because the Giants go hot in the playoffs and won the SB.
     
  13. jerseyjet0912

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    ok well then lets just suck for the next 3 years while we wait for sanchez to magically put it together and win the jets two super bowls (he wont). it was a matter of time before eli became a very good to elite qb. i never wanted sanchez. he never looked to have the tools to be an nfl qb, he should have stayed his senior year at USC, and hes a california pussy thats playing qb for a cold weather team. didnt want him 3 yrs ago and i dont want him now
     
  14. RobertTheJr

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    Ok you win. Hopefully Tanny can wing a deal to bring Brees here to pass to Holmes and Kerley, and hand off to Shonn Greene. Then we can win.
     
  15. ace_o_spades

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    Oh boy, so much AIDS in this thread.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    So Eli did have glaring faults and they still creep up? Yes or no. You started that discussing and now you are backing away.

    Funny how Sanchez's best games came in December/January in Chicago, in Pitt, in NE.. Didn't know those were Cali weather in the winter. I should travel there more often in the winter.

    Cool you didn't want him. I'm sure that's a great reason to hate on a player. Any real discussion of what Sanchez needs to improve or does wrong? Wait don't provide that discussion because if it's like your analysis of Eli I know it's wrong and incorrect factually.
     
  17. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Why stop there? Aaron Rodgers looks good too. Adrian Peterson should be available and I'm sure Calvin would love to play for the Jets.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It was a matter of four full years, including a shitty regular season in the fourth, and the whole time there were total retards like you on the Giants boards screaming to get rid of him and fire Cowher.

    Hell, most people weren't even calling Eli elite until after he won his second ring.
     
  19. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I can honestly say that i thought Eli would have been robbing houses with Ryan Leaf at this point. Before last year,we did go to 2 consecutive afccgs with Sanchez at qb. I'm sure somewhere along the line he took some part in that. As a jet fan for quite a long time,i remember what a real drought felt like,i will gladly ride this train until i feel the ride is really over. Which it is not.
     
  20. rmagedon

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    Hahaha, "it was a matter of time before [Eli] became a good QB". I'd like for you to find a Giants fan who thought this then even during the middle of his 4th year.
     

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