Promising Secondary

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  1. GreyhoundJet

    GreyhoundJet Active Member

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    From what I have noticed the past few years our coaches and GM's have really done an excellent job building up our secondary. If you look at our secondary players a few years ago they were all average players. Players like Donnie Abraham who was never really a great CB but was serviceable in the time he spend here. I used to joke around with friends that are secondary was just so average. We didn't have that key standout player that would shutdown a WR. However, over the past couple of years we have really changed our approach and I believe we have built a secondary which will help us compete for years to come. It started with drafting players like Erik Coleman and Justin Miller, and Kerry Rhodes. If you add Andre Dyson to that (27 years old) we have the makings of a great secondary. Even a backup secondary man like Derrick Strait is only 26 years old and has shown flashes of promise.

    Looking ahead to this season many people are labeling this a "rebuilding" year. I agree with this notion entirely and I am looking forward to seeing the development of our future QB. However, what I am most interested in seeing is the development of a secondary that could produce several pro bowlers in the next few years.
     
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    keep in mind that Mangini is a DB coach...he knows a great deal about the secondary, in addition to the existing secondary that was good last year and the year before...we havent had defensive problems to say the least in the last few years...our offense has been whats holding us back...only reason our D gave up points last year is b.c our offense can do nothing but 3 and out...our d was on the field for about 3/4 of the game...to give a rough estimate...i blame Hackett still....
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I hope Mangini can maintain some sort of control over Miller. He is an aggressive and energetic young guy, but I think he has too much of a punk attitude right now. If he gets his head straight, I think he will be a complete performer for us right about the time we are ready to go for itl
     
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    i agree...between his disturbance right before the draft and his attitude during that game that got him flagged..he needs to get his shit straight...on the other hand...he has loads of talent, potential, and damn he hits hard
     
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    Somebody needs to teach him how to tackle properly. Since he's been here, he NEVER EVER wraps up. Every single time he attempts a tackle, he lowers his head and shoulders to dive at the ball carriers legs. He got ran over like 3 times in the game doing that sh*t. He needs to take a lesson from Vilma. Vilma does always lay the wood but he always makes the tackle because he WRAPS. Herm is an idiot so I can see how he didn't address that last year; Im hoping Mangini does.
     
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    yes he doesnt wrap, and that will cause a problem if he doesnt fix it soon,but when he tries to nail a receiver...he can really lay them out...mangini will fix the problem hopefully, now that club ed is over...just give it some time
     
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    Come on dude i dont need to hear that:smile: :drunk:
     
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    I know that Miller probably deserved to get flagged after that hit on Toomer, but does anyone else think that the whole taunting penalty is complete and utter bullshit? I mean, this is the NFL, and emotions are bound to run high... especially when facing a guy who during the week called the Jets a bunch of second class citizens who borrow their stadium every now and then. Miller talked trash for 2 seconds top and that ref was all over him. Let these guys play, sheesh.
     
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    on one hand I agree with you but on the other, it is ice to see that the NFL is trying to get rid of that ghetto, hip-hop shit mentality. It is an embarrassment to the NFL just as it is in society. Leave that shit for the NFL and white kids under the age of 25
     
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    If Mangini knows a lot about a secondary, he sure isn't translating it to the field. Last year the Patriots finished 31st in pass defense. He also produced a defensive unit that was the 5th most penalized defensive unit in the NFL. Hype about what a genius he is is nothing more than that, hype.

    Someone explain his clock management skills. Jets get the ball back Friday with 2:03 seconds left deep in their own terrirory with a TD winning the game and have no timeouts left.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Miller talks trash throughout the entire game. It's just that he actually got caught doing it, where normally the punks get away with it.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Nice try, Bobby, or should I say typically pathetic try? You can't swing from Herm's balls and then criticize another coach for something that Herm is incapable of doing. He is head-and-shoulders above Herm in both the categories you speak of.

    (Edit: and yes, Bobby, you do care much about Herm although you try to deny it. You are Herm's little pink fanboy.)
     
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    Pam TGG.com Friendliest Poster Fourpeat!!

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    I despise that taunting rule, I have hated it ever since they started it.
    It reminds me of little kids misbehaving.

    "Mom, tell Billy to quit looking at me, waaaaaaa" :rolleyes:
     

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