Sanchez Vs. Tebow Thread

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  1. ItsTime

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    Yes, what happens if the starter is throwing interceptions at his gaudy rate and is the main reason for a poor start, lets say 1-3,2-3 ?
    What happens then?
     
  2. VanderbiltJets

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    See: Post #60
     
  3. catsigater

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    Your education has served you well.
     
  4. displacedfan

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    His gaudy rate that's 55TD to 51INT?

    1-3, 2-3 would not get Sanchez benched. Look at the first 4-5 games of the season. 0-7 maybe. An injury, definitely. 2-3 would be ridiculous and a complete panic move with no plan, same with 1-3. It would be dumb.
     
  5. Backup QB

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    Tebow was 8-5, not 8-8.
     
  6. Backup QB

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    So disrespectful.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You're such an obvious troll that I don't know why anyone replies to you. Even the Tebow guys.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Same with you.
     
  9. Fightin'JetTitan

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    Unfortunately here in Jizbekistan we are not allowed to utilize air-quotes when speaking as it is deemed a form of inflammatory verbiage against the gov't.
     
  10. Italian Seafood

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    Did they not go from 8-5 to 8-8 like we did? Tebow's one season on the field at the end mirrored the worst stretch of Sanchez's career almost exactly. A lot of this is perception.
     
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    That's not the point he was making. People keep attributing Orton's 4 losses to start the season with tebow. The team went 8-8, Tebow was 7-4 as a starter, 8-5 including playoffs.
     
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    Your concept of trolling is inaccurate.
     
  13. ItsTime

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    Yes, you heard correctly, gaudy rate. 51 interceptions in just 3 seasons is a LOT of picks. Good quarterbacks that win a lot of games for their teams are more at a 2 to 1 td/int ratio. 1/1 doesn't cut it.
    Incompletions stall drives, interceptions lose games, hence Sanchez vs Tebow in their only head to head meeting. Tebow 1win, Sanchez 1 loss.
     
  14. ItsTime

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    I am a Tebow fan, on a Tebowmania forum, you on the other hand , are self-proclaimed abysmal.
     
  15. ItsTime

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    And if you think Rex Ryan can afford or is willing to go 0-7 with Mark Sanchez you are either severley lacking knowledge, out of touch with reality , or both.
    If Sanchez doesn't play better tonight and make some plays Tebow's role will be expanding sooner rather than later.
     
  16. VanderbiltJets

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    Stating facts and observations is disrespectful? To whom? Principally, football fans owe no particular player any measure of respect, given that the fans pay the players' salaries.
     
  17. displacedfan

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    Sanchez is 1-0 against Brady in the playoffs. Sanchez is more clutch? Eli is 3-1 against Brady I believe, Eli is better? Small sample sizes are stupid and even more dumb when the QB's don't face each other. Sanchez has a winning record against Rivers with more than one game, Sanchez is better than Rivers. What a laughably bad argument.

    Also we went over the incompletions stall drives myth where I showed you Tebow incompleting left and right led to the loss of the Chiefs game and Sanchez's incompletions led to the loss of the Bronco game because they couldn't get first downs. Brady's incompletions in 2010 led to the playoff loss to NYJ in Foxboro. His one INT led to 0 points. Peyton's incompletion (and 0 picks to Mark's one) led to the JEts getting the ball and winning the game on a FG.

    If you want to break games down to one sample size with two players who are never on the field at the same time, go for it but it's factual wrong.

    It's completely ignoring at least 104 other players, countless coaches, at least 2 gameplans. But sure break a game down to 2 players who never step on the field at the same except maybe for a coin toss :)


    Tebow's role will expand if it works. It won't expand into starting QB job. Tebow will become a starting QB for the Jets not because of how well he does in a specific set of plays but whether or not Mark gets injured or fails during the REGULAR season. If Jets decided their backup QB should start because of preseason games, Brett Ratliff would be the future of the Jets :breakdance:

    My 0-7 makes a LOT more sense than your 2-3. 0-7 can occur for a multitude of reasons you didn't even consider or acknowledge. What happens if Mangold, Brick, Holmes, Kerley all get hurt? Sanchez might be playing good but have nothing around him. You really think 2-3 under any circumstance besides injury gets replacement of starting QBs? Bills, @PITT, @MIA, SF, HOU. 2-3 is okay in that stretch of games. Tack on three more games and you get IND, @NE and MIA. Go 3-4 in that stretch and you think switching QB's is the best idea? Even 1-3 is ridiculous. You have to reach 1 or 0 wins over the first 6-7 games to get a QB switch and that is only if Mark is the main reason we are losing.

    After that week 7 NE game, the Jets go MIA, bye ,SEA, STL, NE, ARZ, JAX, TEN, SD, BUF

    So even a 2-5 could keep Mark as a starter.
     
  18. #1 Jets Fan

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    Just ignore him. He nothing but a piece of garbage.
     
  19. Backup QB

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    1) It not factually incorrect that he is a "wildcat RB"/punt protector. However, he is the backup QB who will at times run the wildcat and at times punt protect. To assert that his primary functions are either of those duties is at best misleading, at worst false.

    2) Disrespectful to Tebow (though my comment was tongue in cheek, mimicking Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless).

    3) It is possible to say something disrespectful about someone to whom you are not obligated to show respect to.
     
  20. WestonJetson

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    Tim's mechanics and footwork are night and day different from last year. He is making fundamental deliberate progress. However, he is not as good as Mark Sanchez at this moment in time. If he were, Rex and Tony would kick Sanchez to the curb. Why can't you all just relax and give him a few years to either get it or get the hell out (and come back home to coach the Gators LOL)? Seriously. Enough.

    I love Tim. But it is this constant pressure that got Tim ran out of Denver. These long-time Jets fans just want to f'ing win and Tim isn't the answer to a Super Bowl right now... he is a stop-gap measure because of an offensive line that allows nothing but short/occasional intermediate throws and there isn't a receiver starting for the Jets right now that could make the roster of a Saints, Packers or Patriots team.

    Yeah, we all know Tim threw for 9300 yards in college with a better passer efficiency that Peyton or Eli. However, this is the NFL and the elite of the elite. He had to totally revamp how he throws because, the old way that was successful in college, has a pretty low ceiling in the NFL for a QB. It may take him two more years to become a proficient pocket passer to go along with everything else he brings to the table, like heart, fire, leadership and an overwhelming desire to win. It took Aaron Rodgers that amount of time to revamp and retool from what he was in college. Why not just sit back and stfu and support the team if you want to be a Jets fan?

    If Tiger Woods changed his golf swing he would have to get worse before he could get better and that is where we are right now.
     
    #80 WestonJetson, Aug 18, 2012
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