Holmes is nothing but an average receiver who created this persona that he's actually good. He had some clutch catches, bu so did Mario manningham. You don't sign average receivers to top 5 money.
I wouldn't say that he is just average, but I'd completely agree that he's no where near as good as he thinks he is, or as some around here think. And no, he definitely isn't worth the money that we are paying him. That said, there's no way in hell that Kerley is as good.
I don't want to read through every page, lol. Can someone tell me if we have a definitive timespan for recovery?
he is officially listed as day-to-day, but from my understanding, no there is not a definitive timespan
^Thanks From Cimini: "1. Cromartie picked a bad time to hit somebody. Never known as a physical cornerback, Antonio Cromartie drilled WR Santonio Holmes in the back (looked like a clean hit), resulting in a rib injury for Holmes. Maybe Cromartie, who created a controversy last week when he said he could be the second-best receiver on the team, has his sights set on being No. 1. He should save the tough-guy stuff for the real games. "
Since this thread has swirled into a bunch of he-said she-said I've decided to highjack it and turn it into yet another Tim Tebow thread. We all agree that a broken rib is extremely painful and a danger to the lungs and heart. Our very own Tebow broke a rib early in his playoff game against the Pats. Tebow played the entire game, wouldn't come out. Even designed QB running plays where he knew he and his broke rib were about to be crushed time and time again. Tebow >>> Holmes
This isn't true, that debate had a lot of people on both sides. The people who said Holmes wasn't worth a huge contract have yet to be proven wrong on that matter.
@MMehtaNYDN: Jets survive a scare with Santonio Holmes, who is listed as day-to-day after X-Rays on his ribs were negative. http://t.co/ikf4QTtq #nyj
This thread and the Mangold thread may be two of the dumbest I have ever read on TGG. As a member of this forum for over a decade, I truly believe the level of discussion and football intelligence and overall intelligence on this board has taken a serious decline. This board is becoming unreadable. This is football. Players get hurt. Every player in the NFL was young and inexperienced at some time. No team in the NFL continues to play with experienced players who get old. Look at the Steelers WRs. Last year they started the season with Wallace, Brown, Ward, Sanders and Cotchery. By mis season, Wallace, Brown and Sanders - who were all second year players I believe - were starters. Signing a broken down unwanted spare part like Edwards would not have helped this team. Signing TO would be a disaster. And rooting for a Jets player to be injured is asinine.
lol, how much stupidity does one need to see before admitting to being wrong? by far it leans toward major mistake!
Who rooted for a NYJETS player to get injured? Many of of us have questioned the depth and lack of veteran prescence here at WR. Many have questioned the RT position and rightfully so. Edwards so called replacement Schillens is injured as he has been his entire career. Plax didnt work out as his replaement and neither will Schillens. The level of discussion here is just that discussion. Numerous opinions on what a certain fan believes.
So, hey, stepping away from Braylon and message board etiquette, does anyone think there is a MAJOR lesson to be learned here for the Jets' FO? If Holmes goes down for even one game with a sprained ankle or a tight hammy during the regular season, the WR group looks awful. I know training camp is the time to build continuity and work on chemistry and such, but does anyone else think that this Holmes injury shows just how paper thin the Jets are at this position?
Exactly and many of us said this before he went down. The WR position is a train wreck waiting to happen and in the end it will be the scapegoat Mark Sanchezs fault.
Personally I don't think it's as big of a hit as others do. I realize that I'm probably in the minority by far on that one. Holmes is a very good receiver, he's not great. He's also not exactly a prototypical outside receiver for a ground and pound offense. His best role would be as a slot receiver IMO. Hill and Chaz are much more fit to this type of offense on the outside as they're huge guys who are deep targets that can block well. We have 2 other guys that can do well (albeit not nearly as dangerous as Holmes) in the slot in Kerley and White. Sure, our offense wouldn't be as good without Holmes but I honestly don't think it would be as huge of a deal as a lot of you think. We'd get by just fine IMO.
I guess it depends on if you think the Jets really ARE going to ground and pound this season. I think the desire is there and, under Sparano, the attempt will be earnest, but I do not think that personnel fits doing this for a prolonged stretch. I think the Jets will end up passing a bit more than they would like (though not as much as last year) and I think this is where Sanchez is really going to have to show his mettle. I guess it's not so much the great talent that Holmes has leaving the field (I've never thought he was anything great as a #1 WR), it's just that the experience drop-off behind him is VERY severe. You also don't have guys with experience in the Jets' offense/with Mark Sanchez after Holmes. Now that I think about it, I think Holmes' injury may demonstrate more than anything just how poorly the Jets have done at developing any talent & fostering continuity in their WRs over the past few seasons.
