From PFT (does not include changes from Brees new deal): Jaguars: $25.11 million. Titans: $19.97 million. Browns: $17.77 million. Chiefs: $16.54 million. Bengals: $16.30 million. Eagles: $15.74 million. Buccaneers: $15.74 million. Colts: $14.59 million. Broncos: $11.71 million. Packers: $11.25 million. Patriots: $10.87 million. Vikings: $10.52 million. Panthers: $8.76 million. Seahawks: $8.47 million. Bills: $7.36 million. Cowboys: $7.18 million. Redskins: $6.97 million. Jets: $5.86 million. Cardinals: $4.55 million. Dolphins: $4.45 million. Texans: $4.05 million. Bears: $3.82 million. Lions: $3.77 million. Steelers: $3.73 million. Rams: $3.60 million. 49ers: $3.39 million. Giants: $3.11 million. Chargers: $2.86 million. Falcons: $2.75 million. Saints: $2.12 million. Raiders: $1.34 million. Ravens: $606,000. In before one of our resident pats fans tells us why the Jets are nevertheless still in cap hell and doomed to fail at every turn.
That's fine to go into the season with and to help us replace possible cuts/injuries before or during the season. It's next season where we're in trouble as we're a projected $19 million over once this season is finished. I expect a big amount of turnover in our starting lineups next season.
http://nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/claytoncap.php here's a snippet ... read the article for full details
This is not all that comforting though. Being $4.5 million under the cap is where a team should be after they've made all of their offseason moves and are headed into the season. Being $4.5 million under the cap after you've cut all your dead weight but before you've signed/re-upped anybody is a recipe for cap hell. As an example: that figure does not include Dustin Keller or Shonn Greene, neither of whom is under contract for next year. It does not include a kicker and the punter is T.J. Conley. It includes 4 QB's none of whom are guaranteed to be the starter going into 2013 if the Jets have an off-season. It doesn't include whatever the updated cap figure on Darrelle Revis is and that figure is very likely to go up even if the Jets try to work out a 1-year manipulation of his contract that seems to lower it for the year. Revis 2013 cap number is $9 million. There's no way that's what he winds up playing under for the Jets on the season.
4.5 mil with out restructuring anyone? we should be fine. say what you want about tanny but he makes the salary cap his bitch
I'd rather he made the Patriots his bitch but if the salary cap is what he likes to beat each year I guess we'l have to settle for that. He is an accountant after all.
Yep. Somebody will restructure and it will turn in to 12 million + like usual. Look what Tanny worked with this year and we still filled most needs.
Yes, except, we don't have a cover safety, we don't have a true #2 WR, and we didn't pick up a pass rushing LB, while Wayne Hunter is still our RT and will protect Tebow's blindside. Again, not signing anyone to more than a 1 year deal tells me that we don't have much to work with in 2013.
Filling all of the holes we had takes time. They were never going to be filled, even if we had all the cap space in the world. You saying that we dont have a true #2 just shows that you lack patience, because we DID draft our future and current #2 WR this year in the second round. How would you have liked us to fill that position any better? People dont relize that a true “cover safety” is something pretty much every team covets and wants simply because they are only a handful of them. All of the safeties with decent cover skills were franchise tagged... nothing we could do there... So instead, Tanny sings probably the two next best safeties and drafts a two safeties, one who projects to be that center fielder/cover safety. We didnt get a passing rushing LB, but once again, those dont grow on trees. But we did resign our best passrusher last year and did draft one of the best passrushers in the draft. We also drafted our future MLB who adds great leadership, speed, and some ability to cover RT is about the only position that is frustrating... mostly because Eric Winston was cut and signed for only 3.5 million more than what Wayne Hunter is making, but everything cant be fixed in one offseason.
The Jets manage the cap the same way a paycheck-to-paycheck household manages the budget. They squeak by every year with only a few holes marring things but they never have the money to really buy anything big and they never build for the future. It's a pattern that is way too evident at this point and it's a major reason the Jets have never been an elite team, occasionally surfacing for a very good season but never the best in the NFL that year.
Only because we have never had a top tier QB and you cannot plan to get a top tier QB you just have to get lucky or be lucky enough to be really terrible at the right time.
The other way to look at this though is that the Jets aren't a sound enough organization to find and develop a franchise QB. They've drafted just as many QB's as the other NFL teams and yet they have not come up with the guy in 36 years now. Take Sanchez for example. The Jets cheated and shortcut the process so many different ways with him that the odds on it all working out are much lower than they'd otherwise be. They traded up for a guy with one year's experience as a starter in college. They threw him into the mix right away with the expectation that he'd beat out their last failed QB draft in Kellen Clemens. They changed pieces around him like a high school girl changes clothes. They changed the offensive scheme multiple times in his first three years along with changing the players. Wide receivers were running into each other repeatedly as they tried to cope with the new schemes and in some cases a new team. That's organizational failure. That's why the Jets are on shaky ground right now. That's not some accident that has happened to the Jets. It's a failure to act in ways that would promote an elite team.
4.5 million? Great, so what will we have when Revis decides to hold out and Tanny has to pay the man? :drunk:
The Jets have their young core locked up for multiple years (aside from Revis who we may be better off moving anyway). They've gone out and bought big things several times in the last 5 years or so. They plan contracts for aging and fringe players so they can be released and they structure contracts for core players so they can be restructured. The cap has never been a problem under Tanny, I don't know why people continue to complain about it.
The Bears & Bucs have never had a good WR...does that make them incompetent? The Eagles have struggled with Goalline offense for over 10 years now despite wholesale changes at seemingly at every offensive position. Do you consider them failures? Certain teams struggle with attaining solutions within certain facets or positions. Do they deserve blame for some of this? of course. But that doesn't mean they're incompetent or completely clueless.Unfortunately for the Jets...they still haven't found their Joe Namath. Then again..it doesn't help when people start screaming that a guy is a bust after the 1st interception he ever throws. If the jets weakness is scouting and acquiring QB'S...Jet fans weakness is patience. By the way, despite this board not everyone thinks this franchise is on "Shaky ground". The Jets have a solid mixture of vets & youth all over their roster. They have alot of quality sub package pieces for gametime specific roles & many young players poised to break out. Sure they took a step back after falling short in 2010...but they've filled some of those spots along the way. Now it's time for players to step up & to make all this negativity die off till the Jets have their first loss sometime in late October.
This is the part people rarely talk about when evaluating Sanchez. They took away his most comfortable receivers in Braylon and Cothchery and replaced them Plax and Mason who both cant find jobs in the NFL. I understand we cold not sign Braylon but it was a mistake in letting a security blanket like Cotch go last year. Holmes was never the guy Sanchez went to when he was in trouble. This year we gave him speed but no experience. He will have to develop chemistry quickly with his new targets.
Not true. If we had the space, we would have seen Bart get kicked off the team, and would have signed his replacement. Same with several other options i'll discuss below. It doesn't show my lack of patience. The need was this year. I don't hate the pick, but the lack of cap space OBVIOUSLY restricted us from signing any of big name FAs. Im hoping Hill is all thats talked about, and more. But I don't expect him to have an 800+ yard season as a rookie, whereas I want my #2WR to have 800+ yards. #1 to have 1k plus, and then another 1500 yards to go around to TE, RBs, #3 and 4 WRs etc. Vincent Jackson would have been ideal, but we couldn't afford him. I agree. But we failed to get that safety from the Bengals. Forgot his name. If we had offered an extra mil to get him, Im sure he would have come. But we couldn't afford an extra mil. Not that he was great, but Im sure he would have been better than what we have today. Apparently, coverage was his best asset. Again, we are relying on rookies. Thats not necessarily a bad sign. In fact, Im glad we are building through the draft. Key here is, all the players we drafted, HAVE to work out. I like the picks, but there are question marks. Gholston was supposed to be great. He didn't work out. Don't tell me all the "there were red flags etc." details, because the Jets drafting him 6th overall obviously thought he was worth that high of a pick. When u say Eric Winston is making only $3.5 mil more than Wayne, you are telling me that we didn't have the space to sign him. Thats exactly what Ive been saying. I liked the off season, but thats because I know what the cap situation was and Tanny worked great ACCORDINGLY. When go in to 2013 and you have $4mil of cap space after cutting a few starters, and to top it off, Revis will be looking for a new deal, you are not in an ideal situation. Thats why I hope our 2012 AND 2013 draft becomes a homerun. We'll have plent of holes if they don't. We needed at least SIX starters from these two drafts. I mentioned this in one of my threads even before the 2012 draft. Im hoping we picked up starters at WR, DE, MLB, and possibly as serviceable SS/FS.
That is what happens when your team is, year in and year out, on the fringes of success but not quite there. The Jets have good players and, with that, expensive players. They also are generally around 9-7 which means we are never "rebuilding" but rather trying to "win now". Without a 4-12 season (a complete collapse), the Jets will continue to be a "paycheck-to-paycheck" team because our FO believes that we can win a Super Bowl with our current roster. If us fans agree, we have to accept the cap uncertainty each year. If not, it might be better to have one collapse if it means we can rebuild and get cap space. Unfortunately, I don't think even a collapse will help our team since our scouting team is, at best, decent. I like our current pieces though, and I hope our "collapse" doesn't happen unless our current QBs turn out as bad as the media predicts.
