10-6 to 11-5. Not having Schotty automatically adds two wins. We win an extra game on the heroics of Tebow in the 4th quarter.
i said 11-5...i have us sweeping the fish, beating the colts, seahawks, rams, cardinals, jags, titans, and chargers, split with the pats and bills. i think we have tough match ups against the steelers, 49ers, and texans.
I went with 11-5, but feel we are still a wild card team. Unless both the Jets and Buffalo beat the Pats this year they win the divison. I think we split with the Pats 1-1, and they will need at least two divisional losts for us to jump by, and even then it would be hard.
I'm with ya. I 'm always hopeful this time of year and could see us at 10-6. I can also see us at 6-10. We have a lot of talent and should be getting back to a better offensive mentality, but who the hell knows how this will all play out.
It's not ESPN it's John Clayton of espn and who cares? Most of the predictions will be for around 8-8, last year most predicted 10+. It's all just fun stuff to talk about, it means nothing.
Absolutely. I'm willing to share if it's gotta help you go thru life with a positive outlook on things. Seems like you really need them.
I voted 10-6 like most. If our running game returns to 2009-2010 form again, then we have a real shot to go 12-4
the fact that we most likely have a more improved D-line, improved safety play, a MUCH better offensive coordinator, possibly a true #1 receiver which can take coverage off of tone in stephen hill, an easier schedule, a faster bart scott, and lastly a healthier nick mangold, brandon moore, and matt slauson. that all adds up for a better season than 8-8
Yeah, me too. Seems like there's more than the usual amount of unknowns this year at this point of the off season, and even in a normal year I am reluctant to make predictions too early, until we see who might be picked up before opening day, whether injuries are avoided in camp and pre-season, that sort of thing. But as it stands, what are the positives, negatives, in the middle, and question marks? Positives. Kerley. I think it likely he will show further improvement on what was the most positive development all last year, which was him taking over the slot receiver position. As such and as a virtual starter, this should be a big help. Mangold, and to a lesser extent Ferguson and Moore. Say no more, heh - the three guys who make the line above average even with Hunter et al. Holmes. Best skill player, the O will be greatly helped by his presence on the field. Revis. Does it all. Cromartie. A good candidate for most underrated player on the team if you listen to the know nothings who complain about him, but a solid player who draws a lot of attention due to Revis's presence. Perhaps the best #2 CB in the league. The DL. Especially Pouha, but I like the rotation. Coples is a question mark, but the DL is not a weakness on this team. Harris. I am not a huge fan, but he is a solid enough player. Pace and Scott, if healthy, will also contribute. In the middle Keller. He barely deserves to be here considering his liabilities in blocking, his too frequent drops, and the games he seems to disappear. Add in that the Jets do not have a blocking complement on the roster, his entering his contract year, and you see why he should be considered a negative. But... he does get his stats on overall catches. Ok. I am hopeful about Cumberland, though, but until he shows it, he's also in the middle. Greene. Another one I could see putting as a negative, and similar to Keller one reason is he is not capable of being a workhorse while the Jets have no obvious change of pace back. The other RB's get a big meh, too. Slauson. He avoids a negative, barely, because he is coming back from injury. He has to show he deserves this act of kindness. The cast of characters at ROLB. Well, we've heard some talk about going to a 4-3 more often, and also about Maybin being stronger. But Thomas coming back is a huge meh. ROLB should go down as a negative except we really don't know how it will play out. Perhaps this should go in the question mark category... E Smith. He's not as bad as many describe him. His positives balance his negatives. In the middle. Negatives. Wayne Hunter. Enough said. VD and the other OL backups. A huge concern. Pretty much any injury to an offensive lineman will not be pretty. I personally think it is criminal how the FO handles the OL. Conner. Can't catch, doesn't run, mediocre blocking. This guy is a disappointment. No FS on the roster. Bell may be a decent pickup, but Landry so far sounds like he's damaged goods just like we were afraid of when they picked him up. The kickers. I don't like Conley, and Folk is too inconsistent. I am frankly surprised both are back. Question Marks The new OC. I am mystified by posters here who just flat out assume that Sparano will be an upgrade here. But, despite the need to learn a new O at the same time there's this Qb nonsense going on, and no real backup for Greene in a supposedly ground attack oriented O, it would not be fair to put Sparano down as a negative. Sanchez. The biggest question mark of them all, although I have a bad feeling it is not going to be such a question mark. Related to this is Tebow, and how they really will use him, or not. Well, there's always McElroy. The rookies. Of course most NFL teams got their three top picks and hope they will make a contribution, but it does seem like the Jets need Hill and Coples to be starters on opening day, and Davis to begin making real contributions, too. that means they are at risk of failure, but could also make a real contribution. We shall see. Wideouts other than Holmes and Kerley. As for Hill, there's some info suggesting that Schillens might actually be a presence on the receiving corps, which could take some pressure off Hill, and Kerley might even get on the field at #2 wideout. I also like Turner. If someone can take the pressure off Holmes, and Sanchez has a decent enough season, this could be huge. Safeties as group. Despite the negatives, it is possible the CS can find a way, if Landry is healthy, to rotate these guys and get effective play. I was not a Pool fan, so we can't rule out an upgrade for the safeties this year. Given the foregoing, how to make a prediction?
Since we are viewed as the underdogs again, we will probably go 12-4. I remember last season, everyone was high on the Jets early in the season to dominate, but they didn't. They improved on offense and the defense slightly regressed (very slightly). This season seems more like prior to 2010 except with Sanchez having a much better grasp of the offense. In 2010, people said 8-8, 9-7 at best, then we proved them wrong. This year will be similar in that regard besides the Jets always play better when they are underdogs.
I think the Jets are going through a minor rebuilding phase. I don't know if they are doing it the right way, but I think they are trying to emulate how the Steelers/Ravens type teams rebuild - not by gutting the team than going BIG in FA in a couple years, but slower and less obvious. (woody still wants them PSLs anyway) I think the 12-4 type predictions are way off base right now. This is not a 12-4 football team, and honestly it doesn't appear to be built to be WIN NOW team. 2010 was the big push (veteran signings/trades/stop gap contracts (revis) - it failed and now I think they are trying to reload -settling down a little bit to keep cap friendly/ locking up the players they think are necessary to keep/ preparing for Revis contract/ SEEING if Sanchez is the right guy going forward. I think that is what 2012 season will be all about - Sanchez and team growth, on paper the Jets aren't any better what-so-ever from last season. They are going to take this year to find out if Sanchez should be the QB, alot will hinge on this. I honestly fear an 8-8 season the most, where by Sanchez plays alot like last year because it will almost be a waste, although I could see this happening. A 6-10 year where Sanchez struggles would SUCK in the short term but at least they will know perhaps its right to move on. The wild card this year is if Sanchez gets pissed about this Tebow thing and really steps up, the Jets finish in the 10-6 range and he has a great year. The FO will know to stick by him, perhaps go back into WIN NOW mode the next offseason and us Jets fans will have a much more enjoyable year, but I don't think the team as a whole, the way its built has the capacity to be making a run for the Super Bowl or even a playoff bye.
Unless we have a rash of key injuries I can't see 8-8 or worse w/ this team. There is too much talent that is too well coached to have an 8-8 type season again after last years debacle.
Good post (didn't quote for length). To answer your last question, you do what the article does and answer from 5-11 to 11-5 haha. Give a huge range of possibilities.
Hopefully. I am expecting Coples to help a lot but we don't know that. We've downgraded in coverage ability at the safety position. That was where we were lacking at S last year. It's nice to get rid of schotty but that doesn't mean Sparano is better! He's never been an OC. possibly, not likely in his rookie year. I can see him taking some coverage but if you're expecting him to be a true #1 in year one your expectations are too high. We'll see about that. According to Rex. :breakdance: Wayne Hunter, no known quantity backup offensive linemen. possibly. You're expecting everything that could be good to actually be good. As we all know that's not always the case. 8-8 isn't an unreasonable prediction from someone who doesn't assume everything is going to break perfectly for the Jets.
