Dan Marino: "Proven" Mark Sanchez will remain the Jets' starter

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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    This says why Tebow is in the media, not the relevance of the list of doubts.

    The list is posted as some sort of argument that Tebow is going to succeed in the future. The problem is that a list like that can be made for every QB and that not one person said all of those comments, it is compiled from a bunch of different people so you can just pick and choose what you want. Same thing for any list made, its not all one person. The second problem is that the list in no way is an argument for why Tebow will succeed in the future. Like I said that list can be made ofr a lot of QB's, some who have gone to win Super Bowls and some that are out of the league and without a job. It has no relevance to any argument about Tebow.
     
  2. BeastBeach

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    Oooohhh....We're talking levels of ferocity now

    It sucks that the feroc-o-meter 2000 had not been invented back when Brees and Vick had just entered the league and now, unfortunately, we have no basis for comparison.
     
  3. BeastBeach

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    Yeah. Let us just toss watching film and evaluation of skill right out the window even though that is what scouts and GMs base their careers on.

    Yes let us just scoff at that silly old notion.
     
  4. iPlayiBall

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    Yep, laughing out loud. Carry on w/ the stupidity.
     
  5. BeastBeach

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    So if Tebow develops good mechanics and improves his accuracy will GMs and coaches be allowed to look at those things before they give him a new deal or want to vote for him to the all-pro team? Just curious
     
  6. Bannon

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    I have it on good information that he cannot develop his mechanics or improve accuracy. Quarterbacks emerge fully formed into the NFL. From what I here, they run the offense the ran in college, so hopefully they ran a good one.
     
  7. BeastBeach

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    Your post implies that I think those things.

    I do not.

    Try again, and this time bring up things that I have actually said, and not what you believe my opinion to be.
     
  8. CowboysFan

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    You sound foolish comparing the microscope Tebow is under to anything Vick and Brees experienced.
     
  9. BeastBeach

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    Why do you care?
     
  10. CowboysFan

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    It's a forum designed for discussion , I thought that is why we are here .
     
  11. #1 Jets Fan

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    I can sit here and tell u a 100 qb who had nasty stats in college, but never made it in NFL.
     
  12. Bannon

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    Sorry, man -- I have no idea who you are or what you've said. I have no intention of focusing in on your opinion. The discussion centers more on a general discussion. I think if you read things without the idea of vindicating your opinion, you can see the general attitude I'm commenting on. I wasn't even disagreeing with you, I was just using your post as a launch pad to make a point.
     
  13. CowboysFan

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    who cares about college though?

    Tebow is 9-7 as a starting QB in the NFL with a dramatic playoff win and 6 comeback from behind victories on a team that traded their #1 receiver when they named him starter . He did not even have OTAs last year and had hardly ever taken snaps with the first team even before his 1-4 start...with incidentally ...was with the worst team in the NFL at the time.

    That is reality
    That is what already actually happened

    everything else is just blah, blah, blah. Anything else is just speculation. saying he will fail with the Jets has no basis in reality yet. It might well be true but its just a guess .
     
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  14. cval

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    Did Tebow not get injured running the ball. You do not have to get "crushed" it is the wear and tear on the body.



    No that is not what I am saying. The window in your zones are tighter when the receiver gets in the zones and for how long. LBs and Safeties in The NFL cover better than most corners in college. Very rarely does a receiver get wide open which is why Tebow only completed 46% of his passes.


    This is almost every throw in the NFL.



    You are just wrong this almost never happens in the NFL. It is about learning when the receiver is open that young Qbs Struggle with. If you wait to throw to when is a receiver is open in college in the NFL you will have a completion percentage around Fourty something.

    No kidding this is what every QB does. If you cannot do this you will not be an NFL Quarterback. There is very rarely a sight throw as you call it QBs throw to a spot on almost every pattern. If they waited to "see" the receiver open before throwing the ball they would throw 40 ints per season.


    If you do not throw with "anticipation" as you call it you cant play QB in this the NFL heck you will have hard time in High School.



    He has been in the NFL for three years if is motion has not changed now it never will. Now it is the average QB Tebow has a slow elongated release there is just no way around that one no matter what sports science says. I really on my eyes and 40% completion percentage.


    What his release will not change at this point in his career he has tried and failed.




    How many years does he get? Cam has already shown he can throw the ball as a rookie Tebow has not. Cam will become a pocket passer in this league or he will not last. Running Qb's do not last or win consistently in the NFL. We are acting like Cam and Tebow are the first Qbs who could run. The fact remains if you run you will get hurt and not be able to run then what?

    Oh yeah I forgot Tebow does not get hit when gets tackled? Please tell me have you ever out the pads on before?
     
  15. cval

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    Tebow was Home Schooled. He went to Nease but said he had to get an appt in Duval county on Wikipedia to play for Nease. I know at least part of that is not true beacause Nease is not in Duval county. It also mentions trinity Christisian which is a private school and went to Nease because they threw the ball more.

    A little different that they did not want him to play QB.
     
  16. cval

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    Good point but he not first QB to go 9-7. He had a good run and the team had a good run with a tried and true method to win games when you are out matched. It was not only great play from Tebow but a brilliant coaching job. Play field position Football run the ball keep the game close give your team a chance to win it in the end.

    The Pitt Playoff game the Pitt coaching Staff was just out right out coached by Denvers. Take nothing away from Tebow he made some great comebacks but he was not the only one on the field and not the only one making plays.

    He did what he did and was still not good enough for Denver and not many other teams as they shipped him off for a fourth rd pick.

    I think Tebow can help the Jets I dont think Tebow can win a superbowl as a starting NFL Qb. Can Sanchez I think we will know after this year he has shown flashes.
     
  17. BeastBeach

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    lol arguing with a collection of supposed opinions is a good way to ensure you are never wrong.

    Carry on then, I misunderstood.

    Oh so basically Mark Sanchez has done everything Tebow has done and more.

    Why u no like Sanchez?
     
  18. Bannon

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    I can understand the resistance to believing it, because it seems so absurd in retrospect. But to be clear -- his coach at Trinity Christian was not going to let him play quarterback. So he switched to Nease where he could play quarterback.
     
  19. Bannon

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    He's posted a million times that he likes Sanchez and thinks he should start.
     
  20. Bannon

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    And arguing on the internet with a specific person, believing it's going to lead to any kind of resolution, is a futile waste of time.

    Better to just have general points back and forth shared.
     

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