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  1. GoPats

    GoPats Well-Known Member

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    As much as I don't wanna say it, I think "wide right" is runner-up to this.

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  2. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    And you bills fans think u have a chance cause u have Mario Williams? GTFO. We still have the better team and I know your decade of pain wont let u accept that
     
  3. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    They are not even in the same category. Wide right was not some blunder that should have been an easy play which ended up costing the team a win. It was a 47 yard field goal by a kicker who had not hit one that long in his entire career (I think). It would be one thing if it were a chip shot, or an extra point (Tony Romo), but it was a regular play that was difficult to make.
     
  4. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    We have a chance because we have a better o-line, better QB, better RBs, better WRs, a better d-line, and a better secondary (including safeties). And anything you feel is wrong is certainly debatable. If its debatable, that = chance to win.
     
  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I'm "the shit" because the Jets went to 2 AFCCGs.. I am pissed off at the outcomes of those games. If the Jets went to 4 SBs and lost them all, I would be pretty pissed as well - 2nd place is the first loser.

    I do find your subtle references to those games as ironic though when just a sentance earlier you say we can't "make fun" of you because we finished 6-10 that year - you are essentially doing the same thing you mocked Jets fans for...a sentence after
     
  6. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Wow you guys are stacked!!!!
     
  7. Coach K

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    the Bills are prolly an 8-8 team this year.

    Fred Jackson has been awesome for a while but I think the tread might be wearing thin on those tires.

    Ive been a big fan of Fitzpatrick since he played in Cincy. never understood the hate. the Bills had one good WR in Evans without an OL or QB to utilize it. then Evans past his prime and they were lucky enough for Johnson to emerge.

    that being said the major flaw for them has always been an inconsistent OL that flashes solidity then crumbles when the Bills start getting win streaks going.

    their DL rotation is quite impressive, Darreus is a monster and i love him as a player. hes best suited in a 4-3 IMO and itll be interesting to see this year.

    the weakness on their unit is LBer theyre counting on older vets to revert back to their prime and battle injuries and I dont see that happening.

    Gilmore is gonna be good though Ive been a fan of his since i watched him day 1 at SC. hes got the tools to be a top 10 CB if he continues to develop. great athleticism and playmaking ability and not afraid to help in run support. will sometimes have stiff hips covering WR's in cuts and will try to jump routes to make plays and will pay the price sometimes for it though.


    all in all the Bills are better than they were last year. but nobody can blame outsiders for questioning a team thats been the epitome of inconsistent the last decade.

    theyll make the division race interesting but i still see them as 3rd place behind the pats and jets and ending around 8-8 this yr.
     
  8. Bills over Jets

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    I wasn't making fun of the Jets for losing those games. I was saying that if you're going to use 2 AFCCG appearances (where you lost) as ammo for propping up your franchise and talking shit, just understand that the Bills went to 4 in a row and won.
     
  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    OK - this response would be less pathetic if I was the one who brought up the AFCCG, considering you are the person who brought it up, I have to continue to seriously think you are an idiot.
     
  10. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    I don't even like to spew shit about my team but if you think your team is that much better in every position MAN! Its about the units honestly. Offense; Jets=Bills( Lets be honest neither was consistent all year) Defense; Jets>>>Bills( Call it bias but its truth ) Special Team; Jets>Bill( Cord alone wins this )
     
  11. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    What? Do you realize that you don't make any sense?
     
  12. Bills over Jets

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    I don't necessarily think its about units, more so about matchups, but I'll play your game.

    Offense: The Bills clearly have a more potent offense, and I dont think its close.

    Defense: The Jets have clearly had a better defense in the past (we will see about this year, though) and its not close.

    Special Teams: Nobody returns kicks anymore and therefore no one covers them. Special teams has been rendered almost useless. The only thing done anymore is punting, which the Bills have had one of the better punters for the last decade or so and also great return men.
     
  13. GoPats

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    It wasn't referred to as a "blunder" before I posted the Buckner video, it was referred to as a "crushing moment."

    "Laces out!"
     
  14. BuffaloPhysco

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    Lets remember Freddy played in an arena league for most of his life so I think he has a little more durability then the average 31 yeard old RB. I think he picks up right back where he left off, even if he doesn't I would be happy to have Spiller as the starter sometime during the season or next year.

    Dareus will be fun to watch. Kyle Williams as well. With my homer hat off, I think the combo of Mario/Kyle Williams, Dareus, and Anderson could be a top 5 line in the league.

    You're right about the LB'S. But Kelvin Sheppard could be a London Fletcher like MLB for us. He is coming along nicely IMHO. The others are a crapshoot. I'm not expecting anything out of Merriman so anything he contributes is a bonus.
     
  15. BuffaloPhysco

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    They will have a hard time accepting this because most Jet fans seem to be in denial that their window of oppurtunity of winning a superbowl is closing. It's this year or they'll be waiting a while again.

    Even though I love Stevie and he is my favorite player I would trade our group of WR's for theirs in a heartbeat. At this point I'll take Ochocinco or Braylon Edwards who are certainly upgrades over Jones, Easley, Nelson or whoever we start there.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    Disagree on better o line. Disagree on better WR's.(production doesn't directly correlate to skill). Secondary is a push. I personally think the difference between our corners and yours is greater than the difference between your safeties and ours but we have better corners and you have better safeties. Better QB is debatable. Your QB played slightly better than ours in his 7th and best year vs our 3rd year QB in a poor year. Better RB's yes depending how Jackson returns. If fully healthy, clear yes to you guys.

    You guys clearly have a chance but its hard to put you above 8-8 because a lot of recent years it was supposed to be the year the Bills got over the hump and they would start off strong and then falter down the stretch. Happened again this past year. For me to predict over 8-8 that means the Bills finally break a common trend.
     
  17. BuffaloPhysco

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    Hard to keep a winning record when we are in the top 5 every year of sending players to IR. Could balme that on strength and condiioning coaches, bad luck, or the turf in Ralph Wilson stadium. But we have had poor depth in key positions but ever since Nix/Gailey have taken over we have been beefing up the team. Right now the only injury that would desolate this team is anything serious to Stevie Johnson because after him is a bunch of question marks for our other wideouts. Even if Fitz goes down, I trust Chan to coach Vince Young up.
     
  18. Bills over Jets

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    Hey man, I can't knock you for that. I'd agree with it. I look at the Bills on paper and to me it looks like a 10-6, 11-5 team. However, I just cant accept the idea that the Bills will actually... not be the Bills anymore. My inner-Bills fan tells me that something will go wrong during the year, key guys will get injured... something will happen. We'll just have to wait and see.


    I've talked about this at length during my recent time here, but I believe our line is better. Brick and Mangold are two outstanding players, but 3/5ths of your line have questionable, average to below average starters. As a whole, I think the Bills starters + depth equals a better overall line.

    I can't argue with the receivers. I think the Bills have more production, Jets have more skill. Don't know which one would mean "better."
     
  19. displacedfan

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    Agreed, but if I was putting money on where the Bills finished, it is hard to see them break the past trend just because it is ingrained in my mind. Once they get over the hump though, it can set up a nice run for years to come, but you have to get over the hump.

    We can agree to disagree on the line. I wouldn't say 3/5 of our line. 1/5 is clearly below average, 2/5 clearly above average, and 2/5 are in general average even in banged up years.

    Yeah same thing with Jets fans before Rex. Before Rex we always expected the worse, but you have probably sene a lot more optimism from Jets fans even coming off an 8-8 year. Rex changed the culture of a lot of fans and I think the organization. I haven't heard "same old jets" in a long time and only a few fans on here have that mentality anymore. One successful season can change the culture. Now rereading what I wrote, 8-8 season is now a disappointment from this team and organization and instead of going into a panic and firing the GM/HC we are sticking with the HC and expecting a bounceback not a slide
     
  20. neid92

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    Just read this on ESPN. http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast

    Coach staff is working Brad Smith exclusively at QB, according to the team's website. Currently 4th on the depth chart.
     

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