Actual the reason NYJs have not won a SB in 43 years is because there drafting sucks thruout the year & sucks more even today. Look no further then VG & Vlad & maybe Wilson also :sad:
Our drafting has been pretty good for a long time now which is why we are a playoff caliber team in most years. Every team has busts.
Dude, get over yourself. We've had some very successful drafts in recent years, do I really have to name them all? In fact, I'd argue that our best players have ALL come from the draft. Holmes is pretty much the only great player we have that was a free agent (MAYBE Cromartie, but I say he's good, not great). Every draft under Tanny has been above average. Every team gets a bust every now and then. But again, you only care about bashing the Jets blindly with no regards to any actual facts, so whatever's clever. We drafted 5 or so pro bowl caliber players in the past 6 years alone. Name me another team that's done that. The Lions may come close, but they had a top 3 pick like 5 years in a row.
Okay Mrs. Tanny. Really? VG? VD? Wilson is a first round pick? Trading up to get Mark Sanchez in the fifth spot? I'd go on, but it makes me ill. OTOH, Cro is one of the best seven or eight players on the team, so I would rate him better than merely good, to the credit of the Jet FO.
So the jets drafting sucks b/c of 3 or 4 pickS? 2 of your examples are players entering their 3rd season with the team. Sorry...I'm just not buying the criticism. Tannenbaum's drafts trump anything Kirwin/Steinburg came up with & have arguably been better than Parcells/Haley with the exception of 2000 when the team had 4 first rounders.
Really? So it had nothing to do with the offense's best player & O-line signal caller going down for 3 games? The accelerated TC where the team was going away from their run first philosophy? Moore, Brick & Slauson all battling injuries? It had nothing to do with those aspects? It's all on the FO,right? How is 3 out of 5 players being pro bowlers not respecting the 0line? Did you see the Giants O-line last season?
I'm going to be completely honest. As a tebow homer, I was hoping for Mark to fall on his face this season to give tebow the start. All of that has changed, over the last month our so of following the Jets and Mark, he's SERIOUSLY grown on me, especially in his most recent interviews and obvious signs of improvement in OTAs. I really think he'll have a break out year. I'm honestly pulling hard for him. I think it is good for Timmy as well. In an ideal world, Sanchez will lead the JEts to the playoffs and tebow will play well in his roll as backup and roll player, allowing him to get the time and development he needs. Hopefully we'll see great improvement out of him and his value will grow, giving the Jets an opportunity to bank off the trade and Tebow to get a shot as a starting QB elsewhere. That's my wish. Go JETS.
My expectations are that the Jets will acquire star-caliber players on a consistent basis. The best teams in football do this. From 2008 on the Jets have not acquired a single star-caliber player. That's why they're where they are right now in the middle of the pack. From 2001 to 2007 the Jets acquired 5 star-caliber players, 1 of whom is no longer with the team. The Jets need to do better at talent acquisition. if they can't do this then they'll be a .500 team which is right about where they have been since 2001. In 11 years the Jets have won 90 games. They've lost 86. That's because they do not acquire enough high-end talent to accumulate an elite level roster. This was true from 2001 to 2005 and it has been true from 2006 to 2011.
Regarding the OL debate (as it pertains to the Draft), all you have to do is look at the consistently good teams - the perennial contenders - and how they've used the Draft to address their OL. Dating back to 2006, the following teams have targeted OL within the first 4 Rounds of the Draft. (*note* if there's a year missing, then it means the team didn't use a pick on the OL in the first 4 Rounds of that Draft) Ravens 2012 R2: T, Kelechi Osemele 2012 R4: G, Gino Gradkowski 2011 R3: T, Jah Reid 2009 R1: T, Michael Oher 2008 R3: T, Oniel Cousins 2007 R1: G, Ben Grubbs 2007 R3: T, Marshal Yanda 2006 R2: C, Chris Chester Patriots 2011 R1: T, Nate Solder 2009 R2: T, Sebastian Vollmer 2009 R4: G, Rich Ohrnberger Packers 2011 R1: T, Derek Sherrod 2010 R1: T, Bryan Bulaga 2009 R4: T, T.J. Lang 2008 R4: G, Josh Sitton 2007 R4: G, Allen Barbre 2006 R2: G, Daryn Colledge 2006 R3: G, Jason Spitz Steelers 2012 R1: G, David Decastro 2012 R2: T, Mike Adams 2011 R2: T, Marcus Gilbert 2010 R1: C, Maurkice Pouncey 2009 R3: T, Kraig Urbik 2008 R4: T, Tony Hills 2006 R4: T, Willie Colon Eagles 2011 R1: G, Danny Watkins 2008 R4: G, Mike McGlynn 2006 R2: T, Winston Justice 2006 R4: G, Max Jean-Gilles Giants 2012 R4: T, Brandon Mosley 2011 R4: T, James Brewer 2009 R2: T, William Beatty 2006 R4: T, Guy Whimper ------------------------------------ Whether or not the selected players actually panned out is a different debate. The main point is that these successful teams often target their OL within the the first 4 Rounds of the Draft. It appears there's a pretty strong correlation between consistent success and placing value (i.e. Drafting OL within the first 4 Rounds) on the OL.
The Tebow effect. Sanchez will have his best year ever. These guys like each other, train with each other, and will help each other studying the playbook, tape and everything else that goes with max preperation for the each opponent.
Based on the praise Mark has gotten and his performance thus far, why is it so hard to imagine tebow could be positive for Sanchez
Not only that. DL, OLB and OL are three key areas where you cannot over-invest. As Parcells would say, you can never have enough capable pass rushers. And we all know how important the guys at the trench are. Trading down for more 2nd/3rd round picks is crucial to stock up on these. Jets not only neglect these areas consistently, they also gives picks away like candy.
Agreed. As I researched these teams, it was also evident that DL and LB were heavily emphasized in the first four Rounds. Again, not a coincidence.
we have as many title game apps as Baltimore in that span and 1 more than Philly, we have been a consistently good team for a long time now. We haven't gotten over the SB hump yet but we are a contender more often than not, we haven't had a chance to host playoff games recently b/c we have the best franchise in the sport in our division w/ the best QB and oh by the way their drafting has been MUCH worse than ours the last 6-7 years. I see all these guys drafted but where are they starting?
