You're right, I forgot about that. I do think the circumstances were a little different but there is a precedent.
he got free shit!! Tats, rentals cars, money, and also sold his game worn stuff for money, Going to University of Cincinnati I know alot about it but honestly was all a total joke!! At ohio state they have a things called the $100 handshake where the boosters have $100 bills and you go around and talk with them. You can do the math.
I wasn't trying to say that what Pryor did was more severe, only that the circumstances were different. I seem to remember Goodell specifically saying something along the lines of he didn't want college kids to leave college for the NFL to avoid penalties they were given but hadn't served in college. Obviously what Ellis did was more severe than accepting free shit.
Yes, True but wasnt ellis a senior? Pryor did go pro cause tressle was gone and also he would have to sit out first 4-6 games so the NFL game him same punishment.
I was just in the clink recently. Jail sucks but it must be nice to do your time knowing your coming out the other end as a freakin millionaire :up:
Don't worry guys, I got this. I'll get myself incarcerated at the same facility and protect little Kenrick from the other swinging dicks by claiming him as my bitch on day 1. And I won't sell him no matter how many cartons of smokes I'm offered.
Pryor was suspended because he left college for the nfl so that he could avoid receiving any punishments (suspensions) from the NCAA. So Goodell suspended him as some kind of olive branch to show future nfl players that they are still responsible for their actions. Ellis on the other hand, this is something he did like what 2-3 years ago. Id say theres a 99% chance he doesnt get suspended, fined, anything at all whatsoever. That said i also expect this guy to contribute zero or close to zero this season. Maybe with a full offseason/otc under his belt he will be able to step up and fill the gap that Pouha has for now. But I cant see him doing much with all our changes to the defense (and dline coach) while this guys spending 3 months in jail. Not saying hes a bust yet, but I strongly doubt he does shit this year
This is the problem with society. His circumstances are extremely unique. Just because he made a plea deal, that does not mean they "had something on him", it just means his lawyers were not willing to roll the dice. And just because he was arrested does not make him guilty. This sort of thinking makes it so difficult to beat the legal system. The odds are against you even when you are innocent. I am not saying Kenrick was innocent or right in what he did, but he too - just like every other person in this country deserve a fair trial. He plead the deal out because he did not want to risk trial, where, if found guilty he would face deportation 100%. His immigration status changes everything in his case. I can bet if he was a citizen of this country his lawyers would have gone all the way. He was claiming self defense, meaning he already admitted to striking the victim. Add that onto his immigration status, it makes it very very hard for defense team not to take a plea unless it was a situation where a plea would make absolutely no sense. The deal they got is great in comparison to the potential 10 years + deportation. Not sure how the money situation is going to work for him since hes missing a lot of time. Anyone know if there any clauses in his contract relating to this incident? It is going to be hard for him to do much this year because of all the time hes going to miss. But I sure hope you are right in that the commissioner doesn't wield his Thor hammer as he has been known to do so frequently.
I'm glad it's resolved, but just because a defense attorney tells you he won't be deported, that's not good enough for me to believe it. That may have been part of his plea deal, or the attorney may have been told by the DA that the deportation option was off the table, but it's not like defense attorneys are the ones who make that decision in the courtroom.
He CANNOT be deported under the plea deal. Its not possible, the President of the United States himself cannot throw him out the country without creating a massive uproar. The plea that was reached was created in such a way that his admission of guilt will not put him on the deportation track. In order for a person to be deportable, he had to have committed an aggravated felony which has to be punishable of more than 1 year in prison. His sentence is half that.
A couple of points 1. From what I gather Ellis would have to be found guilty of a felony to be deported. I think his plea was to a misdemeanor, which ended the deportation threat. 2. There was a lot more to Ellis' involvement than a simple self defense claim. It it had been that simple, there wouldn't have been a case against him. Based on what I have heard, Ellis precipitated the conflict, and AFTER disarming the guy with the bat, beat the crap out of him, resulting in the injuries. 3. That being said the punishment fit the crime. I'm not sure whether it was 6 months, and he'll serve 90 days, or its 90 days and he'll serve 45, either way that's about right. 4. Previously I though he could be exposed to the "wrath of Roger", but domi made a good point, Pryor's suspension was more a bow to the NCAA, than a violation of the conduct code, so I doubt that he'll be suspended when gets out. 5. In a way that's good news for me, because if that is the case, its also unlikely that Alfonzo Dennard gets suspended either, when his legal mess gets sorted out at the end of the month. 6. Now Jet fans can get back to the real issue with Kendrick Ellis. How come a 3rd round pick was inactive for 11 of the team's 16 games. :wink:
1. You can be found guilty of a felony and not face deportation as long as his sentence does not exceed 1 year of prison time. 2. I don't recall ever saying it were that simple. Self defense is never that simple. Also I don't understand what you mean 'there would have never been a case against him'? What? You are repeating much of what I had already said in my previous posts.
that's what i'd like to know. why is everyone jocking this guy like he's a potential Chester McGlockton[pre-jets]. I think i've seen him make one "oh!" play, where a RB ran right into him like he was going to knock him over. He didn't and KE threw him down. Outside of that, nothin'.
