Cavanaugh is pointing finger at Sanchez.

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  1. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    i read the full article in the daily news today and he is far from pointing the finger at sanchez...he's simply saying sanchez needs to improve.
     
  2. i see absolutely nothing wrong w/ anything Cavanaugh said. He was asked where Sanchez needed to improve & he answered the question.

    His take on Sanchez's struggles make alot of sense to me. Additionmally those struggles are not uncommon for a young QB going into his 4th year. Nothing to see here.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    They choked in '99, they lost a tough game at Indy then didn't show up the next week vs. a medicore Giant team. Win either of those games and they make the playoffs but they waited until they were 1-6 before they started winning then waited until they were 4-8 and out of it before winning again.

    The 2000 team was 6-1 and 9-4, they choked. We didn't have a #1 WR but we had more than enough talent to be a playoff team especially at 6-1/9-4.

    Buffalo didn't contend, they lost 4 of their last 5.

    2009 had only one good team in the division but it was a 4 teams division. '09 Mia was in the race as much as '00 Buf so they had 2 teams to deal w/ out of 3 instead of 3 of 4 in '00 but in '09 we weren't 6-1 then 9-4

    The bottom line is 1999, 2000, 2008 and 2011 all failed. '99, '00 & '08 all had the media secrecay and didn't allow ass't coaches to talk. We didn't win or lose b/c asst's could or couldn't talk. mark Sanchez isn't going to succeed or fail b/c his QB coach stated the obvious.
     
  4. dmarz45

    dmarz45 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see the awkward convo that Cavanaugh and Nacho have next practice lol
     
  5. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Took a look at a Jets article from the Jets Blog. Interesting tidbit about Schottenheimer and how he tells Sanchez who throw the football too. So if Schottenheimer predetermined who gets the ball would this be the reason why Sanchez locks down on WRs? If Sanchez didn't throw the football to the guy Schottenheimer wanted he would give Sanchez some bullshit stare

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  6. FrankWhite

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    What article is this?
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I didn't see that article and I have a hard time believing he told Sanchez who to throw the ball to. If that was the case I take back all the positive things I said about Brian but I don't believe that for a second. I'd need to see some real proof.
     
  8. FrankWhite

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    I'm sure you've had this debate a million times, but could you give me the cliffs notes version of what exactly Schotty did that was good here?
     
  9. Br4d

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    The way it was addressed previously was that Schotty would tell Sanchez who was supposed to be open on a play given the design. That was supposed to be his primary read on the play and then he was to check down from there.
     
  10. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    What I'm getting from this is that Schottenheimer had 2 reads either the primary option or a checkdown. What about progressing to other WRs? To me it feels they were on the field for decoy purposes. Call me stupid but no offense should be ran that way. And wtf if he throws it to someone other than those 2 options he gets scolded.

    We can compare the # of targets Mason and Plax received in comparison to Holmes who is our main weapon.
     
  11. DarrelleRevis.Human?

    DarrelleRevis.Human? Well-Known Member

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    If the Jets organization wasn't such a circus show right now this would never make headlines or its way on First Take as a top debate.

    I see it as a non-story.
     
  12. TwoHeadedMonster

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    The '99 season was a failure??? We went through Testaverde, the punter, and Rick "Jeff George without the arm" Mirer, then settled on using our kick returner as the starting QB. We had so many injuries we were signing guys off the street-- 15 injured players total, missing 108 games (89 starts). And we finished 8-8 after starting 1-6, in a division where the records were 8-8, 8-8, 9-7, 11-5, and 13-3.

    It was a letdown because we all expected a Super Bowl appearance that year. At the same time, it was one of the years in which I was most proud to be a Jets fan. We could have easily been a 3-win team or worse that year, but the team really pulled together and showed amazing character.
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    It was absolutely a failure, this team went 6-3 w/ ray Lucas at QB so there was plenty of talent around the QB but it took them too long to overcome the Vinny injury(and a few others) and parcells made a blunder inserting Mirer.

    It was nice to finish .500 at the time but looking back and remember how we blew it against a mediocre Giant team to fall to 4-8, if we win that Giant game we make the playoffs if everything else stayed the same but the team quit a aweek after losing a touhg game at Indy. To BP's credit he got that team to play hard again for the final month but it was too late.
     
  14. Zach

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    You didn't get what irritated me.

    Constructive criticism is all good and dandy - I get that part. Unlike your assertion, however, I don't view "not getting the pink slip" as an endorsement of his fine job during his tenure. Maybe they did like him like you say. Maybe they tried to replace QB coach and failed so Matt was retained. Who knows?

    Things get viral when you do the dirty laundry IN PUBLIC. That's when shitstorm hits the area. That is what irked me - more than anything. If Rex came out and said these, Ok. I can take that - it's coming from the head coach. Why does a position coach have to create a media shitstorm for a team that is a circus in town already?
     
  15. Catt_County

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    You answered your own question. Nobody would ask a QB coach anything if not for Circus Tebow.
     
  16. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    Cavanaugh should shut up. Right or wrong, nothing good can come from him opening his yap to the press, and it would seem that he should share in some of the blame for Sanchez's bad decisions. He is the QB coach after all. And no, that doesn't mean that Sanchez lacks responsibility for his shitty play. It's primarily on him.
     
  17. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Do QB coaches even talk to the media? More so on this scale.

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  18. grkmanga31

    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    I think we all know Sanchez isn't perfect but given the teams situation with the locker room, these comments from Cavanaugh should have never come out. Every sports writer wants something to talk about pertaining to the jets. I guess they just got a little more. What we should be doing is putting a no talking to the media type policy in place until the start of the preseason. The less you give the media, the less they'll be able to say about you.
     
  19. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    This is why guys like Parcells don't like assistants talking to the media.

    Like it or not, it's the headline writer's job to generate clicks. Seeing Jets coach criticizes Sanchez will do that. It's May 14. There's nothing going on in the NFL right now. This is what generates headlines, you just have to ignore it. Everyone does it.

    Sanchez made bad decisions with the ball last year. Is that news to anyone? The guy had close to the most turnovers in the NFL, of course several because he just made bad reads or decisions. We knew that. Even Sanchez knows that. But since it's said out loud, it's a story.

    It's not like he said Sanchez sucks or Sanchez can't be the guy or "he needs to be more like Tebow" in terms of making decisions. Something like that would be huge news for sure. This will get clicks for a day or 2 and that's it.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    I understand that you are upset and why. Certainly if Cavanaugh said what he said and it was not the view of the Jet coaches, their general view, he was probably being stupid since he would have left himself open to being second guessed. That was my point, though - unless we hear something to the contrary, I think Cavanaugh probably did express the general view of Sanchez held by the CS.
     

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