C'mon now... really? You think stealing defensive signals had something to do with David Tyree catching a ball with his helmet or Welker failing to come up with a very catch-able ball in the last SB? I understand what you're saying and why you're saying it, but think about it from the perspective of how the sport works and how these things tend to play out. They were very lucky, at times, to win the three titles, and very unlucky, at times, to lose in two of them.
I think in close games every little edge plays a part. Of course cheating didn't directly effect the specific plays you pointed out, but throughout the course of the game the little things add up.
Scandalous corruption from a morally Deprived franchise. It brings me joy beyond description to know That everyone outside ne considers the pats Cham Pionships the product of cheating. As a fan you Want your team to stand for something, the pats Disgraced themselves and the league. I'm happy To be in the majority on this issue. Sewer rats
What exactly do the New York Jets stand for? I don't mean that in a snide, insulting way... it just seems like some people forget that the NFL football only exists as entertainment. Turning your TV on Sunday afternoon to watch football isn't any different than watching porn, WWE, or the Sci-Fi channel... and the characters involved are really no better either. Anyone with half a brain recognizes that fact that the NFL in general is filled with assholes, criminals, and attention whores - no team excluded. What was Santonio Holmes "standing for" when he (allegedly) assaulted the mother of his child, or when he threw a glass at a woman in a club? What was Belichick "standing for" when he cheated on his wife with his receptionist? Players play for the money and fame. Coaches coach for the money and fame. Owners and executives are in it purely for the money. It might feel good to think otherwise, but that is the simple truth.
^^^Curtis Martin & Wayne Chrebet played for love of the game. Above are just a couple of examples. they are rare players and they still do exist in the NFL
I cant believe I am saying this but you are 100% right. LOL The whole NFL is a show for us to enjoy. and for the people envolved to make money.
Right, but no team is made up entirely of those exceptions. There is no justification for any fan to be self-righteous when it comes to that sort of thing, because we all root for scumbags. The only reason I even want high character guys on my team is that I can be more confident they will try hard and avoid stupid shit that will hurt the team.
I think Revis should keep his mouth shut and go out on the field and shut Bill up by winning. Makes no sense to take shots at the mighty Patriots until you can dethrone them. Otherwise, when you get punched in mouth, you end up looking like a chump. Don't be a chump, Revis.
who the fuck cares? beat them and then talk shit. until then stfu revis. jesus christ. speak loudly and carry a small stick oughta be the motto of this team
Our culture doesn't banish cheaters the way one would think. Look the reality is, we can talk about the Patriots cheating, their Super Bowls being tainted, but, after all that complaining and trash talking, the Patriots have 3 Super Bowls to the JETS 1, Brady and Bellicheat are still going into the hall of fame and believe it or not, no one other than us are speaking of Spy Gate. This is a today league, no one gives a crap about the past or the future. Its all about right now. I am glad Revis called it as it is. I am hoping it has a very positive effect on our team. We rarely see Revis call someone out so bluntly so lets see how our season plays out.
Nah, I don't. Everyone that isn't a delusional Patriots fan knows they were cheating. I'm not wasting my time explaining it to someone who is already ignoring reality. You call it extraordinarily stupid because you don't like the evidence against the Patriots. Just like you ignore the fact that they were cheating, you ignore the fact that they were much more successful in close games prior to spygate than after it. Convenient that you try and argue this away with a bunch of crap that you don't even know is true and almost certainly isn't. "Most defenses calls in today's game are very basic'? You're basing that on what exactly? I think Rex Ryan would disagree. The Patriots winning percentage in games decided by 3 points or less dropped significantly after spygate. That is a fact. You chose to refer to it as extraordinarily stupid. Good for you. Do you also think it's extraordinarily stupid that the Pats haven't won a championship since spygate, because they haven't. I never threatened you with anything. I gave you my opinion of what would likely happen if I went to a patriots site with my current username and told a mod they were a pathetic loser. I would be shocked if I had an opportunity to respond to there reaction to that comment. I also suggested that you don't continue name calling on this site as it is against the rules. The only actual threat that should be interpreted from that by any intelligent reader would be that if you continue with the name calling you will be banned. If I wanted to threaten you with a lifetime ban it would be a lot more direct. Why would I even bother anyway? I'd just do it.
No its simply that Tom Brady is a canker sore Cocksucker and Bill Belicheat is a Throwing in the Towel Messages on napkins Kind of bastard! Hey, when Your good You can talk shit!:up:
Your RIGHT, you do have NOTHING. I gave specifics, and you just continue the "it makes me feel better about being a Jet fan when I can bash the Patriots" party line. ' Its NOT "cheating" if you aren't getting an unfair advantage. If you aren't willing to explain how it was, then your entire point is intellectually bankrupt. You are like a kid on the playground yelling "ARE TOO" Just because you want it to be so, it must be, and damned the evidence. WHAT evidence. Please give one piece of evidence that shows they were getting an unfair advantage. Next time you see a game, watch the damn defense and you will see that they rarely even huddle up, because most of what they will do, beyond a basic direction, will be dictated by the what the offense does. If you have DVDs of game check it out. The guy calling the signal barely says 3 words to a few guys around him. Its the same with the offense for that matter. Regardless of the call from the sidelines, the play will often change based on what the QB sees at the LOS. The game is much more fluid in that way from when we played No team has won more games SINCE 2007 than the Patriots, your logic is flawed. And losing 2 close games on the final drive in a game a Jets team hasn't seen in 43 years is hardly an indictment of the overall success of the team. btw- this isn't directed to you personally, but I don't understand how when the Jets lose in the AFCCG 2 years in a row, Jet fans consider it a credit to their organization, HC and QB, but when the Pats lose in 2 superbowls on the last drive of the game they are a failure
This message is hidden because patfanken is on your ignore list. as long as THIS is available to block out ALL of this chowd's Encyclopedia Brittanica length diatribes defending the most heinous cheating in the history of sports by Coach Satan and his douchebags, the ban hammer is MOOT