1) Andrew Luck 2) RGIII 3) Trent Richardson 4) Justin Blackmoan 5) Mo Claiborne 6) Matt Kalil 7) Fletcher Cox 8) Luke Kuechly 9) Dre Kirkpatrick 10) Michael Floyd 11) Riley Reiff 12) David DeCastro 13) Melvin Ingram 14) Dont'a Hightower 15) Quinton Coples 16) Cordy Glenn 17) Mark Barron 18) Jerel Worthy 19) Courtney Upshaw 20) Stephon Gilmore 21) Mike Adams 22) Kendall Wright 23) Nick Perry 24) Janoris Jenkins 25) Shea McClellin 26) Dontario Poe 27) Jonathan Martin 28) Doug Martin 29) Whitney Mercilus 30) Coby Fleener 31) Alshon Jeffery 32) Kendall Reyes 33) Harrison Smith 34) Michael Brockers 35) Stephen Hill 36) Vinny Curry 37) Peter Konz 38) Bobbie Massie 39) Rueben Randle 40) Kelechi Osemele 41) Brandon Thompson 42) Devon Still 43) Zach Brown 44) Ryan Tannehill 45) Amini Silatolu 46) Andre Branch 47) Lamar Miller 48) Chandler Jones 49) Trumaine Johnson 50) Brandon Brooks
No Ronnell Lewis - OLB/ILB - Oklahoma? Do you think this kid has been overlooked? He doesnt fit Rex's big 3-4 rush OLB concept but the kid is pretty versatile and can move around to the outside as well as inside. Regardless of who we draft this year for the 3-4 OLB spot, people need to keep in mind that we might be looking at the position next year as well. Calvin Pace isnt getting any younger.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing the Dolphins trade up from #8 to get the 44th best player in the draft.... lol I'm surprised to see that you have Gilmore at #20; a lot of people are saying that he might get picked before Kirkpatrick. I'm assuming that you have Kirkpatrick higher because of his versatility and potential ability to play FS? Seeing your top 50 really puts the depth of this draft in perspective, I would be thrilled if we landed nearly any of the prospects from 30-50 in the second round.
This isn't a mock Pin. It's my 50 best rated players. Tanny isn't 1st Rd material as far as BPA, only based on need.
I understand that, though I was surprised you don't consider Tannehill one of the top 25 prospects in the draft, regardless of need.
I wouldn't, he hasn't proven anything to me. He never showed up in big games, he has an odd throwing style, and is one of the more inconsistent QBs in this draft. He'll be taken because of need and desperation. I'm still shocked teams are so obsessed with him. He's worth the project but not in the first IMO.
I think Tannehill is a victim of hype backlash here, WW. While I'm sure he's not a top ten player (top 20 in my opinion), I could see him rated anywhere in the top 25 or so. I can't get on board with the idea that he's barely a top 50 player. Physically he has all of the tools as a passer, and far above average athletic ability and toughness thanks to his receiver days. I think that he's very smooth moving in and outside the pocket, which is usually a big question mark for young QBs, and is great at passing on the run. He puts a lot of zip on his passes, and is fairly accurate whether in the pocket or out. I think his biggest negatives are footwork and getting consistent timing on his throws (he takes extra steps), but that's really a matter of not getting as much coaching because of his time at receiver. His release is a little low but it's consistent. His height makes that a non issue anyway, and he generates enough velocity that way. I'm sure that it's something that an NFL team will look at adjusting, but I doubt it'll be necessary. Where I think he excels is something that is really hard to quantify (or put in those neat little boxes on scouting reports), and that's rapport with his receivers. He plays with this tremendous trust in his teammates, and that gets him into trouble sometimes. I think he'll always put his receivers in a position to make plays because he understands what it takes to play receiver so well. That mental side of the game can't be ignored, and I'm excited to see what that can do for him in the future. I've said that guys like Brock Osweiler have equal physical potential, but I really think he has a tremendous overall understanding of the game that is very valuable. He's getting that bump into the top 10 because he's a QB, but if he were there in the 20s he'd be a steal for any team, especially one without an immediate QB need.
I don't need to explain to you how players are ranked by someone. Everyone has their own system to rank the strenght of a player. As far as Tannehill, I've never questioned his ability to play QB eventually in the NFL. My concern is the games I've seen him play, especially later in the season against solid competition, he struggled. Hype is hype and Tannehill is overhyped based on teams needing a QB, desperation can cloud reasoning. I always have concerns of overhyping and overdrafting players. The Tyson Jacksons, Trent Williams, Tyson Alualu's are examples of players that were huge reaches and haven't met their high expectations. I understand Teams value QBs higher. The teams that usually need a QB and have to reach usually regret their decision. Jax is a prime example, they draft Gabbert too early and the next year they sign Henne, poor management. The drop off at QB after Luck and RG3 is significant.
Oh yeah, I agree totally with everything you just said WW. All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, the starting point of the hype isn't quite as low as you have it. I believe he has the tools of a first round player.
When I see Tannehill, the first name that popped into my head was Akili Smith. Smith was wayyyyyyy overhyped based on his athleticism alone and because he looked the part. It's not fair to say that they're the same QB or anything, but all the warning signs are there. Tannehill may develop into a good NFL QB, but he'll have a difficult time shaking the "one year wonder" label.
