A lot of times players from around the league train with other players. Its common, I wouldnt over analyze it.
exactly, off the top of my head I can name Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman, Joe Flacco, Phillip Rivers, and Matt Cassel as QB's who organized workouts during the lockout. It was so commonplace last year, that GB media were harassing Aaron Rodgers, because he didn't organize workouts, and he made fun of them after their offense went ballistic against the Saints week 1.
Don't know if this will answer your question, but- Holmes and Chris Johnson are "close", and are part of a contingent of other NFL players who are also "close" and always, routinely, train together every off season with Tom Shaw at Disney's Wide World of Sports. They, and others, spend a large chunk of the off season together with Shaw, season after season, essentially. Johnson has long trained with Holmes and the guys there. Also, the ties continue with the two even deeper, as in the case of Holmes and Johnson in particular, they're also both repped by Joel Segal, which is another link/bond they have. They have multiple ties, pretty sure. For the record, Ike, who is also mentioned as being with them, is another guy who is repped by Joel. But, anyway, that's why Chris is there and probably also why, even after the workout finished, I think one report noted that Chris was part of the players who Mark was commanding in the huddle. That's his direct tie to why he'd specifically do workouts and extended session stuff with the Jets players outside of the usual training. Tone. But for the other parts of their training, and why he's there... Johnson's always a part of the Shaw bunch. Someone correct me if I've gotten anything twisted, but pretty sure I didn't. Sorry if this doesn't answer your question.
Uh, yeah he is. What's your point? He also happens to suck at his job and was the leading reason for why the Jets were awful last year.
Sanchez made the OL look worse than it really was due to his lack of ability to read defenses and make adjustments. I don't understand why more people don't get this simple fact.
False. Football is a team sport and he was an equal part to the mess as was every other position that failed to perform well enough.
This is an interesting post, because it highlights the difference between football and message board posting. While one player may be able to hurt the performance of teammates for bad performance on the football field, your posts actually make the rest of the posters here look better because you are so monumentally bad at it.
he had an OL really struggling and 3 of 4 new WRs w/ no offseason program- how do we know he wasn't making the right reads and it was the WRs? I'm sure it wasa combo of all 3 factors but to give Mark the biggest share of the blame is unfair. It starts up front and our Ol was awful for about half the year and mediocre the rest of the year. W/ all that going on Sanchez had very good #s heading into the last 3 weeks where it all fell apart for the TEAM.
If he doesn't want to be held accountable for his poor job performance he should not be accepting tens of millions of dollars to be the starting QB in NY. He sucked last season and the dumb fans who fail to understand that basic fact are utterly clueless.
You are right, our 2011 season being a failure was all about the QB. He did everything wrong, he couldn't block, couldn't run, couldn't seperate from defenders, couldn't catch, couldn't tackle, I blame him for allowing Tim Tebow to go 95 yds, I balme him for Victor Cruz going 99, I blame him for the great Matt Moore's ridiculous drive in Miami. It was ALL Mark Sanchez's fault.:breakdance:
Yea Ocho Cinco, Andre Johnson, Santana Moss, Antonio Brown all trained together last year. In basketball, Durant and LeBron trained together. Sometimes guys just want to train with other guys who have similar work ethics and play the same position. Sometimes guys work out together because they knew each other before the NFL and somtimes guys trained together because they live close to each other in the offseason.
Yeah, but maybe he could get Tebow to throw him the ball. It's not just about winning with Holmes.... I still remember him pouting and Sanchez patting him on the shoulder after Sanchez hit Burress for that 3rd TD pass against the Chargers... he shoulda thrown it to me!
