2012 Fatcesa thread

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  1. Levenhagen

    Levenhagen New Member

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  2. neonleon

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    I completely agree with his assessment. They just hired Sparano to help with the run game and they will be completely contradicting that if they go after Manning.
     
  3. grkmanga31

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    i hate to say it but fatty is right. We need to focus on making everything around sanchez better. That involved offense, defense, and special teams. Going after the most sought after qb in free agency won't fix every hole we have on this team. In addition, going after him will just show we'll be chasing the accomplishments of both city rival and division rival and honestly theres no sense in that. It's not like we were 4-12.
     
  4. ace_o_spades

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    haha this show is now Mike's On instead of Mike'd Up
     
  5. sec314

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    I don't want Peyton, we cant afford him without getting rid of Sanchez and our luck he will hurt his neck in game one. The statement about our new offense is not true, the offense we are implementing can be wide open if we wish. Fatcesa has no idea what he's talking about.

    http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/art...uglielmo/2b68cc4e-88ed-416f-b7ca-267dea4e9c42

    DeGuglielmo's part of the offensive scheme will be unveiled over the coming weeks and months, having been handed down on stone tablets from another blast from the past. It's descended from Ron Erhardt, who fashioned his offensive approach as the coordinator under Bill Parcells and the Giants, then under Bill Cowher and the Steelers, and finally with the Jets in the transition from Rich Kotite to Parcells. Henning, and most recently Sparano, continued it.

    "People say this is Parcells' system, but really, it's Ron's," DeGuglielmo said. "Every offensive system has a way of calling things, identifying players and routes, things like that. This system has a very distinct way of calling plays and formations. It's a traditional, professional, two-back, play-action type of offense, but it easily adapts to more open offenses. If you can use the term old-school, this system has old-school qualities with the flexibility to be new-school. The way we call it, you can go from traditional to spread out with ease."
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Stop with the neck garbage...every doctor who has seen him including the Colts doctors say his neck is stronger now than it was before he ever got hurt and stronger than almost anybody else you can find..think of it as Tommy John surgery on the neck..the only issue he may or may not hame is whether he has sufficiently regained strength in his arm which depends on nerve regeneration...recent film would make you think he has.
     
  7. kaboom

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    I know that there are risks involved with Manning. However, it is complete BS to say how this goes against who the JETS "are".

    #1 The JETS defense is very average and this was exposed in all the losses down the stretch. We don't have a pass rusher. Slow LB's and a hole at Safety. Strong CB's.

    #2 Ground and Pound? With what? We have an average (at best) O-Line. A weak run blocking TE (Keller) and a very pedestrian core of RB's.

    #3 The coaching philosophy. Any coaching philosophy that could not automatically embrace Peyton Manning and tailor the schemes to his strength should not be long for employment in the NFL. This isn't Barry Switzer running the wishbone at OK-U 30 years ago.
     
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    Says the Jets arent SB contenders with Manning....
     
  9. jetsclaps

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    The number 1, number 3, and number 5 ranked defenses in 3 years.

    Yep, average.
     
  10. kaboom

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    And of what relevance is 3 years ago stats?

    They couldn't make any significant stops against their 3 divisional opponents the last 3 games of 2011. The team was 8-8 and any football observor with an above body temp IQ could see that their D was as good as their won/loss record throughout the season.

    3-year trends are meaningless in a league in which teams turn over 25% of their rosters each season.
     
  11. jetsclaps

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    You are an idiot if you think the Jets have an average defense. Their offense consistently put them in bad spots last year, and their defense was the reason the Jets were even in the games you mentioned. By very average you think the Jets have a 14-18th ranked defense in the NFL. Yet they were top 5 last year.

    Rex Ryan has arguably the greatest defensive mind in the NFL and he has more than enough talent on the team for them to be an easy top 10 defense, and probably another top 5 defense if you want to look at history.

    Use your brain, stop talking stupid.
     
  12. Jetdic

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    3 year trends are relevant when the team is top 5 each of those years.
     
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    This guys a fucking douche bag. He's gotta big blue dick in his mouth.
     
  14. ace_o_spades

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    The Jets defense is good not elite part of the reason is theyre not clutch enough.
     
  15. Testaverde

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    The D was average last year. We may have been ranked #5 in total D, but the most important ranking is points allowed where we ranked 20th. They really failed in big spots last year. When the O cut the Oak lead to 7 late in the 4th the D allowed a long drive to put the lead back to 10. Same thing against NE the first time we played them. After cutting NEs lead to 6 they allow a 7:00 minute drive making it a 9 point game. They allowed the 95 yard drive against Tebow. Yes, the O deserves a lot of the blame for putting the D in bad spots, but to say the D was top 5 is stupid.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    What trends are meaningful then? There is a relevance to being top 5 in defense 3 years in row because it means the team is above average all 3 years compared the rest of the league. They are in the top 20% of the league which is pretty good.

    It would be much more useless to go back to a different coach when the defensive was coached differently. 3 years is a good amount to see the positive impact that Ryan has on the defense. The defense has continued to be an above average defense. They gave up 3 back breaking drives all year. The one to the Pats in the second game I believe. The game where the Jets either scored a TD or went 3 and out. The one against the Dolphins where they gave up 9 points on 3 turnovers. The one against Denver where they held Denver to 10 points and collapsed.
     
  17. jetsclaps

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    To say the D was top 5 last year is fact. It's not elite but to call them average is plain stupid. They have a very good defense.
     
  18. Testaverde

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    To say the D was ranked #5 in total D is fact. To say they ranked #20 in points allowed is also fact. To say the O was ranked 8th worst in total O is also fact. Do you think our O was 8th worst in the entire NFL? Rankings do not always tell the whole story. Anyone who watched our D this year will tell you that they were just average. The D was Elite in 2009, very good in 2010, and were just average in 2011.
     
  19. MexicanJet

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    He's right.
     
  20. Pereiro16

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    Then they're definitely not with Sanchez
     
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