D'Brick R'structures

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  1. GQMartin

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    You are correct. With that 8 mill roll over, the Jets were EVEN with the cap.

    Freeing up 7.5 million for D-Brick puts us 7 million under. Remember experts say an average draft class will cost 5 million to sign against the cap so currently, I doubt they freed up this money for a Blue Chip FA.
     
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  2. displacedfan

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    Thanks for clarifying. I kept on hearing we had 7 million already because of the rollover. Yeah, so it makes sense this is for draft picks and maybe a low end FA.
     
  3. RochesterJet

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    I wouldnt be looking for the jets to sign any FA's. We are in cap hell, this makes the prospect of trading our 1st round pick and stockpiling picks a greater possability in my opinon. 7 million before Devito or Pouha and draft picks puts us in a undesirable situation.
     
  4. JoeWillie130

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    Tanny is a genius. Can we do this with more people?
     
  5. xxedge72x

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    Looking at the numbers, it seems like they might be able to do the same exact thing with Davis Harris.

    Sanchez is a different beast because he's near the end of his contract. He would need a new deal completely (I doubt he agrees to an outright paycut unless the Jets are threatening to can him completely - again highly doubt).

    Source: http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html
     
  6. Italian Seafood

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    Not necessarily "hero" but we don't and haven't had to worry about LT, a key position, for years and can focus on other issues. He doesn't miss games, plays at a Pro Bowl level most of the time, signs and restructures his deals without any problems or holding out of camp if I'm not mistaken. If Jet fans want to appreciate that it's good, other people will bitch and moan about anything, I get that too.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Pro Bowl has been irrelevant for over a decade. If you want accolades for great play, look at the all pro team, which he correctly did not make.

    I like the stability that Brick provides at LT, like that he can stay healthy, like that he isn't a diva. He is what you EXPECT to get with his contract, although he was not able to compensate for having an injured teammate at LG like you would expect from an elite blocker. Though some fans will make concessions for days when a player fails to perform.

    I just don't see how a contract restructure plays into it or somehow validates his loyalty to the team. Players and teams alike say that stuff is 'business', yet fans call him a 'team player' when he gives the go-ahead to his agent to make a business transaction.

    It makes no sense.
     
  8. Br4d

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    If the cap goes up as much as it is projected too over the next few seasons then the idea of turning salary into bonuses that can be prorated is a good one. I don't think the Jets are going to want to commit to a new contract on Sanchez right now. There are too many questions up in the air at the moment and tying their hands at QB for for the next few years would be an aggravating factor.

    There's a real chance the Jets collapse next season, even if Sanchez dramatically improves his play. We've seen the Jets go from 10-6 to 4-12 twice in the last 7 seasons. That's a recurring dynamic for them and it is a direct result of the fundamental weaknesses of the Bradway/Tannenbaum talent management scheme.

    The 2007 Jets collapsed despite Chad Pennington raising his statistical performance well above his 2006 levels in the process. The QB wasn't the problem in that collapse, fundamental weakness in the trenches was.
     
  9. Italian Seafood

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    Again, I mostly agree with you. If people didn't learn from Shaun Ellis that it's about the green in the wallet and not on the helmet then Brick's thing isn't going to change anything. Once more, I credit Tannenbaum and Woody for working with the rules they have to create room to improve the team.

    My point with Brick is fans like him for a number of reasons, like we did Martin, so when this happens it's reflected in the comments, that's my take.
     
  10. Italian Seafood

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    Every situation is different. Pennington was hurt in Week 1 that year and Clemens played most of the second half of the season. The problem on offense was a hole at LG and no real FB. We rushed for 6 TDs all year, one by Pennington and one by Clemens, and that was with Thomas Jones on the team. Plus we had that stale Mangini D, Vilma got hurt, Revis was a rookie and no good CB on the other side.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Come on, man, argue with me. :)

    I am one of those fans that like Brick, even though I saw a lot of flaws in his game this past season. My problem is with the principle, not the player.

    As far as Tanny and Woody, I am very suspicious right now about the brain trust advising them on football matters, but whenever I think of them handling the business side of things, I have few misgivings that can't be directly traced back to that brain trust. The money and negotiation side of that house is tight.
     
  12. ScotsJet

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    Harris signed his deal post-lockout, can't be restructured till training camp.
     
  13. Br4d

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    There's also a real chance they don't collapse but when I saw them retain Wayne Hunter with a cap problem in the offing I upped the chances of a debacle next season.

    The real problem with the Bradway/Tannenbaum talent management scheme is that neither of them respects the pass rush at all and neither of them thinks continuity on the offensive line is worth maintaining.

    The Jets actually had a pass rush early in Bradway's tenure with the team however that result was obtained via the draft picks and free agent pickups of the prior administration. The Jets sacks actually decreased from 2000 to 2004 despite John Abraham coming into his prime with Shaun Ellis opposite him.

    In terms of offensive line continuity the Jets have started 7 different guys at LG and RT since 2006. They've had 8 guys play LG for them in the last decade (Jenkins, Szott, Machado, Goodwin, Kendall, Clarke, Faneca, Slauson.) They've had 6 guys play RT in the last decade (Young, McKenzie, Fabini, Clement, Woody, Hunter.)

    When you have that kind of action going on at two positions on the line over a period of time it's no surprise when things inevitably break down over line-based issues.
     
  14. Rawrk

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    I think former Packers Exec Andrew Brandt tweeted something along the lines of: "Short term relief in exchange for long-term pain". I'm sure Tanny will figure something out in the future years, but I'd like to see what the plan is with this current cap space before I declare the move a success.
     
  16. Italian Seafood

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    That's what's frustrating to me. The D line I can almost live with, especially with Rex around to mix things up and bring pressure one way or another. But the O-line, you're right, all it takes is one hole for the whole thing to fall apart and they never seem to get that. The one time we kept it together for more than one year we ended up in the AFC Championship Game with the #1 rushing game in the NFL.
     
  17. Rawrk

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    so we want o-line continuity.. just without hunter?

    actually.. that sounds pretty good.
     
  18. Barcs

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    Tanny went all in for Nmandi? I missed that one. Coulda sworn he was on the Eagles last year and we signed a bunch of guys to new deals after 2010.
     
  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Jets offered Nnamdi money that kept then from otherwise participating in FA, to their detriment. That's all-in as far as I am concerned.
     
  20. KWJetsFan

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    Seems like this move was a necessity. It also seems to benefit both parties, so nicely done.
     

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