Why would I trade a bad OL for a bad OL? I'd rather trade for a good one. Just because the Bills' offensive line is a pile of dogshit does not make the Jets OL any better than they were this season. Hell, Ferguson allowed as many or more sacks as Hunter did and he was a Pro Bowl starter on the supposed merit of his pass blocking. Does the Pro Bowl really matter in this situation?
I don't care whether you think the Pro Bowl is a joke or not. I'll swap the Jets OL for the Bills OL in a heartbeat. Get a clue. The problem is NOT the OL. It's a QB who can't make pre or post snap reads. He can't process what he sees fast enough to make good plays. That's why he takes so many sacks and has so many fumbles. It's why he throws late, resulting in missing timing patterns, throwing behind receivers, bad INTs, and pick sixes. A QB who throws downfield more successfully would force DBs to back off the LOS and open up the running game. Check-downs are supposed to be last resorts, not first resorts. When a defense disrespects a QB's willingness and/or ability to throw downfield, the D puts "8 in the box", effectively shutting down the run plus keeping check-down passes short of the first down sticks. Unless Sanchez improves his own skills, the Jets OL can't help him.
It will be interesting to see what happens now that Schotty is not around to blame anymore. In that 60 throw loss we found out why they don't let him throw and now everybody else knows it.
Adam Schefter was on Mike and Mike this morning with Mark Schlereth and somebody else They were asking Schefter what he thought the Jets could get for Sanchez. he mentioned a 1st rd pick, he almost got laughed out of the studio. he then said at least a 2nd and a 5th.
You are right. I made a mistake. See how easy that was? I am still alive. Now go ahead and admit you were wrong to say I had not made any stat based arguments. And if you could read with any comprehension you would have realized I was only comparing Sanchez to Pennington because of LTJF's digression yesterday. And Chad had one regular season with a run based offense, was healthy, and followed that up with a four interception playoff appearance. BFD. And you are saying non-stat based arguments have no validity whatsoever? You should really log off and regroup.
FTR: The Bills OL gave up only 22 sacks in 2011, the Jets 39. The Bills passed for 231 yards a game, the Jets 206. The Bills had the 15th best passing offense, the Jets the 21st. The Bills rushed for 4.9 yards a game, the Jets 3.8. The Bills had the 13th best rushing offense, the Jets the 22nd -- and the Bills lost their best RB to injury in the second half of the season. The Bills were ranked 14th in total offense, the Jets 25th. The Bills were a better offensive team than Jets despite having a crappy OL that ended up with a LG playing LT and practice squad refugees and street FAs starting because of injuries. Imagine if they had three guys good enough to even be considered Pro Bowl material. Seems to me that the Bills got a lot more out of their limited talent than the Jets did with their better talent -- and before you start thumping your chest about your great 8-8 record, keep in mind your Jets were 8-8 only because Stevie Johnson dropped a sure TD in the second Bills game. Otherwise, your mighty Jets would have the very same record as the lowly Bills. It's time to stop blaming the big uglies on the OL for the Jets offensive problems.
He's right. It's hard to find a QB who can win for you late in the season in the playoffs. Lots of teams, like the Falcons now and the Colts a half dozen years ago, have a wonderful QB who does not have the knack of being able to win late in the season when it counts. I think the Jets might find a taker for Sanchez in the late 1st round or early to mid 2nd. They might wind up with no interest but there are always teams that see the QB as the major weak spot in their plan to win it all and are willing to overlook flaws that another teams personnel and schemes may have caused. It's hard to see exactly where the fit is though and that's why they might draw little or no interest, although Sanchez would probably draw heavy interest as a free agent if he was cut. The teams most likely to be looking for another QB are Seattle and Cleveland and whichever of the teams that drafted a QB in the last couple of seasons and wind up looking to cut and run when they realize that he's not what they thought they were getting. Chicago has developed the expected love/hate relationship with Jay Cutler, but it's hard to see them moving on given what they paid for him. The Raiders, who would be the natural fit for Sanchez have taken themselves out of that trade market by spending two 1sts to get Carson Palmer, a decision they will probably regret in a year or two.
You are obviously afraid to admit you made a mistake. We already get that you are not a stand up guy. Maybe you think your computer will give you an electric shock if you admit I did in fact make stat based arguments yesterday. Scaredy cat.
We will probably know by the end of September whether the move to get Palmer was the right one. I don't see how you can say they will PROBABLY regret it in the end. After gettng up to speed under very difficult conditions he for the most part played well. After a full camp and pre-season, with McFadden back I assume, he will have every opportunity to do well. Let's see if he makes the most of it.
Yea, 0-3 down the stretch is the definition of winning late in the season. And in his two most important playoff games, he is 0-2.
You obviously have an IQ that could be calculated by rolling a pair of dice, but for some rolls a pair of dice might be one too many.
And yet I can see clear as day you are afraid to admit you were wrong. Keep on with the intelligence insults, mensa man. Your cred is already in the toilet, so your attacks are laughable and harmless. I win.
who gives a shit...your franchise qb gave up after getting his money...and finished last in the division after starting 5-0...pathetic...
From ESPN Insider article titled: "Ranking the NFL quarterbacks: A look at the NFL's top 40 quarterbacks; league perception is a key ingredient" The No. 1 thing I learned during 14 years in the NFL is that while there's a great difference between perception and reality, perception drives reality. It's true. Owners, general managers and even scouts aren't immune to building a profile of a player that's at least partly driven by perception, and they make decisions in part based on those perceptions. Perception becomes belief. It's not laziness, or really wrong, just a part of the culture of football. Perception is created through a combination of things -- the inherent small sample sizes of football, the emotion of the game, the size of the event and also the moment. How you perform on one big stage can stick with you forever, even in the evaluations of people who should know better. (Imagine the league perception of Joe Flacco today if Lee Evans had held on to that ball. How much more "clutch" would he be? How much better of a leader? All for the same read, the same accurate pass.) Now think of the week Eli Manning faces. This is a week that, based on the way perception drives the league, could determine whether he's a Hall of Fame-level player. And this is a player who almost surely will finish his career with 50,000-plus yards and well more than 300 touchdown passes. But a second Super Bowl ring -- this time driven by the storyline that Manning led this charge, perhaps more than he did in 2007 -- would secure a Canton bust. If Manning wins this week, I see him climbing onto the mantle of the other great quarterbacks in this league. And it won't be because of something he said on "The Michael Kay Show," and how we need to see him through the debate of "elite" or not. It'll be because he's improved as a player and will have totally shifted the perception of where he stands in the game. He'll be there with Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and even his big brother. And he'll have more rings than three of those guys. Make no mistake about it: Manning is playing for almost instant "Hall of Famer" recognition this week. It's simply how the sport works. Parameters: When I was asked to break down the top 40 quarterbacks in the NFL, I studied a lot of different factors. I used the tape, for starters, and the backroom words from evaluators and other QBs, the guys seeing it up close. I looked at the numbers, like QBR and passer rating, and win totals. I considered trajectory and which way the play is trending, so you'll see that word a lot. But I also took into account perception, because it absolutely plays a role in the way a player is valued around the league, and that matters. Labels stick. You are also welcome to read into the order in which guys are placed within each section -- that's not declarative, but it's not an accident. Could Go Either Way This is a group of quarterbacks who have shown talent and even results but are facing major questions regarding the future trajectory of their careers. Most have pretty decent job security, but each is in a situation now in which his league perception is filled with questions. There is also a wonder in each case whether the environment is the best one to succeed in. Mark Sanchez (Jets): Still has a high ceiling in my opinion not just because of talent, but through the way he's carried himself and won some huge games, but if the Jets want a ground-and-pound scheme under Tony Sparano, will we ever see if Sanchez develops into an upper-tier passer? Hard to say.
this...its all about the flavor of week w/ the retard analysts and so-called experts. everyone thought e. manning sucked the big one last year and now he's taking a 9-7 team to the superbowl, he's an elite qb?!?! f-ing stupid
As he should have been. Saying a 1st round pick assumes that every other GM has not only never seen Sanchez play, but also has no film available of him outside of his USC days against shitty Pac-10 defenses.. If the Jets get a 3rd round pick for Sanchez, they should take in a heartbeat. That would be the best you will ever get for him. And the more he plays, the lower his value will drop.
