See that is where you always go off the track. SPECULATION is NOT facts. Facts are like this NYJs have not won a SB since 01/13/69 WW2 started when Germany invaded Poland on 09/01/39 Obama is Prez of the USA Boehmer is Speaker of the House The atom bomb was exploded in Aug 1945 over Hiroshima JFK was a shot dead in Dallas in Nov 1962 Man landed on the moon in 1969 & returned safely to the earth Those are real TRUE FACTs not your phoney balony speculative facts If you are trying to convince people with your over the top homer view that the NYJs are a super great team at least do with real facts instead of your silly speculation :sad:
There's two legitimate sides to this issue We have not won SB since 1969, so we can't be satisfied with losing AFCCG two years in a row or look for unwarranted recognition from it OTOH, two AFCCGs are closer than we've ever been before, and a step in the right direction. We must build on that. I think most Jets fans get baited into arguments when people tweak us by diminishing the accomplishment. I find myself arguing with anti-Jet morons ( i.e. Giant fans) whose depth of football knowledge doesn't go much farther than "Jets suck." But I don't want to give such people that satisfaction of admitting that we can't rest on the laurels of 2009 and 2010. So I agree w/Champ's positions that anything short of the SB is not satisfactory. But at this point, I am not willing to blow up this team and start over. Also, I don't diminish the 2009-2010 teams, especially to outsiders, who are constantly looking to crap on the Jets.
And yet they're the only team in the NFL that chooses to play regular home games in Canada; not to mention the difficult time they have each year trying to fill their stadium with actual New Yorkers on any sort of regular basis. What strong roots they have.
Well they are certainly going through a rough patch but the ownership hasn't given them much to root for. But the fact remains they are the only actual NY football team. The Jets and Giants are clearly New Jersey teams, they both moved to New Jersey as part of a real estate development deal, so now they are the NJ Giants and NJ Jets, it is what it is.
Just think of all he real FACTs there have been since 01/13/69 Nixon resigned The USSR collapsed Rep. Gifford was shot in Ariz The Iraq war The Afgan war 09/11 The housing crisis The employment crisis :sad:
They are. Because this "rough patch" the good doctor speaks of is actually life in Buffalo, New York. By the way - where do they get off calling themselves the "Buffalo Bills" when they play in Orchard Park, hmmm?
Jets and Giants represent the New York metropolitan area, which includes parts of New Jersey. Their ties to both states make them perfect representatives for that area.
yes facts w/ the wrong dates- very factual! what part of Rex having 4 postseason wins is not a fact? what part of 4 road wins under rex compared to 3 the rest of our history isn't a fact? what part of 2 title game apps w/ rex and 2 conf title games from '70-'08 is not a fact? Please explain.
People do not understand the "NY" in our name represents NYC not NYS and we play in the NYC metro area like Dallas doesn't play in Dallas, the skisn don't play in DC and oh yeah the Bills DON'T play in Buffalo.
No. They don't have to point to losses as validation now THAT THEY WON! But, believe me, if the Fumble was called and the Giants went home like they should have then that Championship game and run up to it SAVED COUGHLINS JOB!!!!!! So, there isn't a doubt in my mind that the Giants would have been "pointing to a loss" as validation.
The difference there of course is those teams like Dallas etc... actually play in the state they are representing. Fact is New Jersey is a separate state from NY, fact is the Jets and Giants play in New Jersey not NY. Why were the Devils and Nets not called NY Nets and NY Devils? Oh yeah because they play in the state of New Jersey that's why.
The NY represents NYC not NYS. The Devils and Nets made their own choices, I'm sure if they could switch they would b/c no one cares about those teams,
Does the state of New York receive any type of tax revenues from the Jets and Giants, or does it all go to New Jersey?
Whatever makes you guys sleep at night, but the fact is the Jets and Giants are New Jersey teams because they play in the state of New Jersey, pretty simple really. I'm a Jets fan but I concede that the Buffalo Bills are the only actually NY team represented in the NFL today, so I do pull for them when the Jets aren't playing them or involved in the outcome. I was holding out hope the Jets would get their own stadium within NY's borders, but instead they decided to play in Giants stadium in NJ for the foreseeable future. The Jets are the only non NY team that I root for. My other teams are the Yanks, Knicks, and Islanders.
