No one is gloating about afc championship appearances. You like many other opposing fans like to pretend that the Jets and their fans do, as it gives you an excuse to continue to come here and kick us while we're down. Frankly I think it's pathetic..but I've never seen my team win anything, so i have no idea how I'd act if my team actually accomplished something worthwhile. All the AFC championships do is gauge where the organization IS in their pursuit of a championship. We haven't been to 5 SB's in the last 10 years like the Pats. It's purely a failure for them. And no the Jets aren't content with getting there..but it suggests the team is close. When you have had nothing to cheer for, for seemingly decades, you have to take baby steps to reach your ultimate goal.
lol so it was SD fault? Then why was it not San Fran fault for putting a rookie back on a punt return when he already screwed up once. And you must know more then Mike Periera. http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/23/why-bradshaws-fumble-wasnt-a-fumble/
Don't insult our intelligence. Your team is in the SB and you're on a 8-8 team's message board trying to puncture open any additional means of misery that you can. It's pouncing. You did the same damn thing on another Jet message board. You won't go away till the Jets finally do get over the hump and then you'll vanish like Oliver on the Brady Bunch.
It was a terrible call b/c it was a terrible call not b/c I said so. The whistle blew almost immediately which never happens, earlier in the game the Giants D had about 4-5 guys trying to strip a ball and they didn't blow the whistle even though forward progress was stopped. The replays were the correct calls in our game against the Giants, if you know the rules you'd know they made the correct call in each. I don't care what Mike Florio says, that was a fumble. They never blow the whistle that quick. QUOTE=KurtTheJetsFan;2408985]Ok, so you bring up one game. Where's the equivalent to Bradshaw's fumble no call? Tyree's catch?Patriots defender falling down on Plax's TD? Williams Fumble?Norwoods Shanker? Since 1998 Jets have had almost as many play off appearances as the Giants..yet we don't hear about anywhere NEAR the number of breaks.[/QUOTE] Actually since '98 we have the same # of playoff apps- 7 each but I will disagree w/ you on some of those other breaks. if it is a player mistake that's one thing but an official error is worse b/c the players have no control over that. When has a bad call helped us win like it did for you guys? People just don't understand this game. Yeah it was a dumb TO but if he doesn't call it we do and we have more than enough time to get the same FGA. Remember we let 20 secs or so off the clock before we kicked the ball, if we needed to run another play or TWO we could have. and aamzingly when he scores a big TD against the Gianst they call OPI which they never called against him while he was a Giant when he pushed off far worse than the hand fighting on the play against the Giants. we don't get breaks like that Bradshaw ruling.
Your comments are correct. I just think making excuses about other teams getting bad calls is a joke when the calls were verified by Periera. And the Giants got lots of bad calls against them and still won big over the Packers.
Actually since '98 we have the same # of playoff apps- 7 each but I will disagree w/ you on some of those other breaks. if it is a player mistake that's one thing but an official error is worse b/c the players have no control over that. When has a bad call helped us win like it did for you guys? People just don't understand this game. Yeah it was a dumb TO but if he doesn't call it we do and we have more than enough time to get the same FGA. Remember we let 20 secs or so off the clock before we kicked the ball, if we needed to run another play or TWO we could have. and aamzingly when he scores a big TD against the Gianst they call OPI which they never called against him while he was a Giant when he pushed off far worse than the hand fighting on the play against the Giants. we don't get breaks like that Bradshaw ruling.[/QUOTE] so the refs, Periera and Florio are all wrong. And you are right. lol. It is obvious you are bitter and mad but you are like a typical Jet fan who defies logic and skews things to his advantage. you ignore Keadings misses, Caldwells timeout fiasco, Peyton not playing letting you in the playoffs and you even ignore the former head of NFL officials all because you know more than he does.
I am discussing the awful call on the Bradshaw ruling not the PR muffs/fumbles. That's on the players, the Giants players didn't make those mistakes and they earned those TOs. They didn't earn the whistle on the Bradshaw bothced call. Bradshaw's fumble WAS a fumble, you can bring up any articles you want. They blew the whistle too soon, the play was not dead. if that was the case they should do that every play and we wouldn't see any of those pile ups where guys are trying to rip the football out and we saw a bunch of those w/ the Giants on D earlier. Pereira also said the wrong call was made during the Victor Cruz fumble at Arizona that handed the Giants game earlier in the year- is Mike right or wrong there?
Periera was saying they couldn't challenge, they always allow plays to develop, if they blew the whistle b/c a player was going backward then you wouldn't havd the Tyree play- wouldn't Eli have been down?
I am not arrogant enough to say I know more than Pereira. Apparently you are and no matter how many articles and experts anyone posts you know more than everyone else. You have an ego like Rex Ryan lol.
The problem with the Bradshaw call was that earlier in the game, a 49ers player was being mobbed by Giants defenders and the refs took a good 5 or more seconds before they finally blew the play dead. With Bradshaw's fumble, the play was blown dead within a couple seconds.
Everyone here would trade the jets roster for the giants roster ( including owner and coaches) in a second. So , with that being said, the giants put themselves in a position to be lucky. We put ourselves in a position to lose, and until that changes we will keep watching them and other teams play in the superbowl.
A quarterback in the pocket is not cosidered a runner until he pulls the ball down and attempts to run forward with it so the Tyree play has absolutely nothing to do with anything. But keep up the crybaby persecution act.
EXACTLY! I was yelling at my TV for them to blow the whistle, that took forever yet Bradshaw gets hit and immediately they blow the whistle- they never immediately blow the whistle.
It is not a question of knowing more than anyone else. Those plays happen all the time and aren't whistled dead nearly as fast as that specific one.
they managed to call Sanchez down on that safety even though he threw the ball away. I'm not saying they should have blown the whistle on the Eli play but his forward progress was stopepd, he wasn't even thinking about throwing at that time and if the rule is as soon as you go backwards the play is dead then that play should have been blown dead as well, right?
Complete ignorance of the forward progress rule to compare it to pileups where a guy is moving forward. I'll take perrerias word on it, forward progress stops the play gets blown dead. Works the same way if the defender thinks the play is over and they neglect to blow the whistle and the guy goes 80 for a td. We'd be saying the ref ignored the rule. Rules are rules and this crew got the rule right. Thankfully we have replay to look at certain things, thanks to a certain qb who in 1998 was 1 yard shy of a qb sneak td that cost one franchise a playoff appearance and gave another a bye week.
Did you take Pereira's word for it on the Cruz play at Ari that won you that game? It's funny you bring up '98, we get ONE break(never mind Keyshawn caught a TD and would have come down in bounds but was forced out the play before) and they never let us forget, the Giants get plays like this nearly every week and then the one time they get one against them(GB) they want an investigation. The crew got it wrong w/o question, you can't allow the 2 teams to play by different rules.
Your bitterness is so over the top. I will take the ruling of the man who ran the head of officials for 12 years. I am sure you were all over the refs for the way they botched up the rules on that last fg attempt in giants niners 02 playoff game. Gut tells me you would defend that one though, despite the leagues apology the next day.
Sanchez intentionally grounded the fucking ball in the end zone!!!! Wow, why do you bother to argue about the rules when you don't even know them?
AGAIN, Pereira said the refs got the call wrong in the AZ game which gave you a game and was the difference btw making the playoffs or missing by a game. In that case he was wrong? By the way, the rule itslef may be correct but it's never called that way inclduing earlier in the game when forward progress was REALLY stopped and they allowed the Giants D to try to strip the ball for a good 4-5 secs after progress was stopped. Just admit you got a break. That's not what they called though, they called him down. If they called grounding that would have been different- of course when Eli grounded last week it was ok vs. GB.
