How are the Jets going to respond to this Super Bowl?

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  1. Bill Belidouche

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    The Jets obviously need to make a big splash in response to both of their hated rivals making it to the SB. If the Pats win, it further solidifies their dominance over the AFCE. If the Giants win, it officially makes them the team of NY for at least another year.

    All I know is that Woody better have something big planned. As in, Peyton f'n Manning or something like that.
     
  2. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    The big splash is to win Super Bowl 47.
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Why does Woody Johnson have to have something big planned?

    Haven't all the other something bigs, like Brett Favre, Kris Jenkins, Braylon Edwards, multiple tradeups in the draft to make a splash, etc, all turned into dust in the wind for the Jets pretty quickly?

    Not to make a big point about this but you could argue that the Jets have done nothing of lasting value in the offseason since they drafted Darrelle Revis and David Harris in 2007. This despite trying very hard to make that big splash and win the offseason each year.

    Maybe it's time for the Jets to make like the Steelers and just go to work on the hard but necessary little things that championships are made of for a change. It couldn't hurt.
     
  4. Nilton

    Nilton Active Member

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    Only way is to win next year. Which I doubt, a few too many holes.
     
  5. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    making a big splash is the opposite of what they need to do. they need to have a well thought out course of action for the next few years that they begin to implement immediately, not simply getting publicity to counter the success of their rivals.

    dear God, the world would be a better place if fans were as interested in the organization building a winning team as they are competing for headlines.
     
  6. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    A lot of these guys are friends so the Jets will respond by watching the game and rooting for the Giants. A majority of these guys are adults and not children like some of us here on this sight.

    organization-wise I hope the owner makes it clear we're not running a fraternity and the coaches are on notice as well as the players.
     
  7. JetsNation28

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    Need to get back to basics and start improving players that are on the roster instead of bringing in players every year trying to fill in the missing pieces from the outside.

    Yes, this team needs some new players but it also needs to improve from within and build some chemistry. I believe they will address their needs through the draft first off and then try to get some free agents although it will be hard to convince players to come play for the Jets with all the things that have occurred following the end of the season.

    I believe a full offseason and a new coaching staff will be like a fresh start for Sanchez and Co. and if they can put all this shit behind them and improve as a whole, next season will be more successful then this one both on and off the field, at least I fucking hope so.
     
  8. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    they won't

    nor should they
     
  9. MexicanJet

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    Get peyton manning!!11!11!11
     
  10. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    i hope they respond by addressing all the teams needs. we need a safety, rt, wr, olb. if we can do that then i think this team can compete for a championship again.
     
  11. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Quick fix doesn't work.

    I hope this piece of wisdom finds you well.
     
  12. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    They already made the most important change - dumping Schotty. I agree with most of the responses above - just address the obvious needs and build off the key pieces that are already in place. The last thing I want to see is some big flashy signing in an attempt to win immediately at the expense of future seasons (e.g. signing Manning).
     
  13. laxin

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    The brilliant thing is, is that we DONT need a big splash... Us needing to make a big splash is some dumbass reaction to us taking the back seat once again as our rivals face off in the SB.

    The smart thing would to be do just the opposite- have a low-key offseason where the biggest name that might get traced to the Jets is not Peyton Manning but Reggie Nelson or Michael Griffin.

    We dont need to make a huge splash, we just need a solid offseason where the many holes are filled with quality players, instead of going after the biggest name on the market.

    To me a FA of Michael Griffin, Robert Meachem, John Carlson and Braylon Edwards looks a whole lot better than Peyton Manning. We need to build a fucking team, not a my horse is bigger than yours show.
     
  14. laxin

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    Wow, my thoughts exactly. Glad some fans on here get it :beer:
     
  15. soxxx

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    Repeat. Win next year, then in 2013 when its in our building win it all.
     
  16. AJW

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    Peyton Manning does not fit Sporano's offensive philosophy. You and many others still can't understand that. You get players that fit your system.
     
  17. AJW

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    I like your way of thinking.
     
  18. Footballgod214

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    Team Building

    edit...didn't mean to highjack...thought i was starting new thread. ooops.

    When it comes to 'Team Building', Tanny's philosophy has been (and continues to be and will always be) to fill every hole possible through FA to give himself maximum 'flexibility' in the draft. These are his words, not mine.

    I guess it makes sense seeing that the FA market comes and goes BEFORE the draft. And having max flexibility in the draft means Tanny doesn't have to 'over draft' to fill one or two remaining 'voids'.

    But at the same time, each draft class is characterized by having an 'over abundance' of certain skill positions. IE, this class is deep in receivers. Others have been deep in lineman.

    For fans who want Tanny to 'build through the draft' vs FA how would you proceed?

    One thought is to NOT grab a FA, regardless of who it is, if the upcoming class is 'deep' in that skill set.

    If Crabtree is available as a FA don't break the bank, the class is loaded with WR talent, so go get the next 21 yr old Victor Cruz.

    The danger to Tanny's career, of course, is Crabtree goes to NE and Tanny drafts 'Alex Van Dyke'.

    If you were the Jet's GM, how would you balance FA and the draft?
     
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  19. Br4d

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    What the Jets need to do in this offseason to get back on track:

    1. Rebuild the offensive line, which was the best in the NFL just a couple of seasons ago and has now slid down near the the lower third of the pack. They don't need to make it the best again but they do need to make it a top 10 unit or nothing else is really going to matter in terms of winning a Super Bowl. You can't win a Super Bowl with your defense if the offense can't stay on the field reliably in January.

    2. Create a pass rush that brings pressure consistently. The Jets have not had this from the front 7 since 2004. They have not had a linebacker with more than 8 sacks since they moved to the 3-4 in 2006.

    3. Fix the edges of the defense near the line of scrimmage and the center of the defense in the secondary. Fast runningbacks and big tightends destroyed the Jets this season. Nobody wins a Super Bowl when any big fast back is a threat to go for 150 yards on any given Sunday. Nobody is going to beat the Patriots in the AFC East until they can cover Gronkowski and Hernandez or Tom Brady retires.

    4. Find a #1 back to take the load. Shonn Greene is not a #1 back and likely never will be. It's not a lack of talent it's an inability to carry the workload without getting banged up.

    5. Settle on a set of receivers and keep them in place for a few years. Switching the WR's every year would cause problems for an established QB. It's like playing Russian Roulette with a young guy have consistency issues.

    If these 5 things aren't handled this spring and summer the Jets aren't going to be any better next season than they were last season. The team is hollow at this point. Lots of names and not enough numbers out of them and nobody behind them if they go down.
     
  20. Zach

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    1. Fast backs and TEs have been killing the Jets D as of late simply because the pressure from the front seven is minimal. If the rush is intense and powerful, then that forces the RBs and TEs at home. Remember what killed the rushes and TE passes against '85 Bears D. Sure, that D had good safeties and whatnot, but what kept the RBs home was the intense pressure up the middle. Currently, Jets D is extremely weak at the front seven - and that is not how you build a championship defense. Watch the Giants defense - their secondary was decimated by injury this season, and their LB corps is not what it once was with Antonio Pierce gone now. When they need to apply pressure, however, they get the job done with front four rush.

    2. Setting the edge - again that falls squarely on the inability of DL. Jets D had to employ the likes of Bryan Thomas because their DLs could not set the edge, even at wide 5 or 6 technique. DeVito was the best run-defense guy for the DE, but he was gap-shooting DL, not a typical 3-4 DE that would absorb OLs. Pouha is not how you spell typical 3-4 nose tackle either - when he made his plays, he did that through shooting the gap.

    Look. I have no problem with them shooting the gap, if the design, or the situation warrants it. That other teams allow these two to shoot the gap on a regular basis means the offense is more concerned with disrupting the LB plays than double-teaming the Jets DL. That's why Jets still had to resort to the likes of Bryan Thomas and Calvin Pace, when they should be making use of more athletic LBs.

    True, 3-4 DEs do not set the edges by themselves - they absorb the first wave of blockers, then the OLBs mop up and finish the job. As for the Jets, that is not even remotely close. For this reason, Jets front seven looked more like Eagle front than 3-4. (This goes back to the Mangini days.)

    3. Since the DL play is dismally ineffective, the LB plays are mostly doomed to failure even before the start. If you send the LBs to rush the passer, you get this gigantic clusterfuck Jets call blitz. You do not generate pressure out of that mess.

    4. Last, but not the least, if you give any QB enough time on his hand, he will find an open receiver - that's a guarantee (and a fact), not a what-if scenario. Since the pressure from the front seven is non-existent, Jets have to resort to top quality CBs to compensate their lack of pass rush. The problem with that approach is that, if you invest heavily on the back four, that investment won't come in handy against running game.

    5. Moore needs replacement, but that need is not immediate. Neither is Slauson's replacement need. Only RT is an immediate need. Since Jets are committing heavily to runs, they should invest heavily on OL too.

    6. I wouldn't mind locking offloading Santonio Holmes, and lock up Braylon Edwards with Patrick Turner for good 4-5 years. Kerley can fill the slot WR role, and if OL is revamped enough, maybe Keller can stay and contribute as a receiver.
     

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