Who do you hate more?

Pretty much my sentiments exactly, I'm not religious either. I think the difference is he's expressing his own beliefs without really pushing it on others. I've been to the south where they push it on you, that's irritating.

 

It's hands down the patriots

I remember the day Brady got knocked out for the season in week 1 against the chiefs. It was awesome, I know that sounds bad but thats how much I hate the patriots and Tom Brady.

I also absolutely hate Wes Welker, he is such a little SOB with his 3 yard catches followed by 20 YAC. He sucked on the Dolphins and is such a system player.

And don't even get me started on Gronk...

 

"System players" do not lead the entire NFL with 122 catches for 1,569 yards, 9 TD's and a 1st team All Pro selection.

After the most prolific season by a TE in the entire history of the NFL, I'm sure you just consider Gronkowski a "system player" as well.

Jets fans can be pretty funny.

 

I could go for signing a couple of those system players.

 

Thank you, reminds me why I can't lump all Jets fans together.

 

Welker was on the Dolphins 2 seasons and had 1 Rec. TD and never came close to 1000 yards in a season. Did he just get a lot better when he joined the Patriots? I think it has something to do with the system.

And no I don't consider Gronk a system player. He is a beast that cannot be stopped, just ask Eric Smith. He is a good young player, not a system player.

 

Please explain to me how the "system" allowed Welker to lead the NFL with 732 YAC?

Guess it has nothing to do with Welker's ability to run precise routes, make great catches in traffic and make defenders miss tackles.

Yea, it's the system.

 

Don't you have something better to do then argue with me over Wes Welker. I never said he wasn't a good player he just hit the jackpot on being on the Pats with Tom Brady. I just hate the guy.

 

Looks like the Pats are going to win this going away. Congratulations! Hope you step on your pompous dicks this Saturday.

 

And yes, Welker is really good. [Strokes PatFanTx's hair softly while whispering "shhhhhh"]

 

I'm not argueing with you (you are certainly entitled to your opinion), I'm just debating your comment that Welker is nothing more than a "system" player.

Welker has all the skills that you would want a pure slot receiver to have.

 

It's not really a point to argue. I really don't know what the hell a system player is.

 

1. Patriots
2. Dolphins
3. Bills/Giants

 

It's the media attention he gets. Why do you think people hated the knicks when they were bad? They got headlines and attention for no reason. The media treats in like he is the only spiritual or religious player when there are plenty of them. The media acts like he single handedly wins games when we know the kicker making 2 50+ yards field goals and the defense holding teams to 10 or 13 points. I don't think anybody despise Tebow, they hate the media attention (ESPN) surrounding him.

And it is the dolphins for me. Even though I am in Boston and never saw Marino play, the Dolphins just bother me more than the Pats.

 

I wish we could develop a system that allowed Keller to carry people 30 yards down field.

 

A system player is an uneducated fans excuse for why their own players are worse than those on the team they hate.

 

Matt Cassell might disagree with that. Welker made him a very rich man.

 

Welker is a good player but the one time he was the focus of their offense he put up his worst #s(2010). He's a great complimentary player, when D's were scared of Moss it opened things up for him and now that D's are scared of their TEs it opens things up for him. He's not a #1 WR, we saw how Revis dominated him.