The big mistakes he made were guaranteeing Pace and Scott's deals, that is gonna haunt us this offseason.
Woody was coming off a pretty serious injury and his play was starting to fall off a lil bit in 2010. IMO, he would have been just as bad if not worse than Hunter.
If so, why did you hit reply twice? If so, why did you hit reply twice? ECHO ECHO There was this OVERRATED CB named ASO, you see....
Doh!!! Really? That's just BS. Yes, the Jets would have had to lose some of their own players, but he wasted time pursuing Nnamdi, meanwhile losing out on some of their own as well as outside affordable players who could have helped the team. Turning over 1/4 of the roster of a team that has made the AFC Championship Game 2 years in a row would never be a good idea, but it was especially idiotic in a year where there were no OTAs, mini-camps and a shortened TC. In trying to create cap space to sign Nnamdi, he created contracts with both Pace and Scott that makes them uncuttable and both are getting way overpaid. You Tanny defenders are unreal and need to pull you head out of the sand and wake up.
"With the draft, the bad far outweighs the good." How? He drafted Revis, Harris, Mangold, and Brick, some of the best, most elite players at their postions and locked them up long term. He drafted Sanchez for barely anything, Greene, Keller, Slauson, Wilson, Conner, Smith, ALL starters, not backups. Also drafted McKnight (KR leader in the NFL), Wilkerson, the list goes on. He's drafted incredible since he's been here, Kiper and McShay typically rate our drafts the best since he's been the GM. So idk how you can possibly make the argument that he drafts poorly. Go look at NE's last 6 drafts, with the exception of a few good players, THAT is drafting poorly. "He isn't a football man" Wtf does this even mean? He spent year learning the intricies of the game under Bill Parcells, one of the smartest men in the history of the game. Who gives a shit if he's an attorney and an accountant, he's learned under the best. You have to start somewhere. If he was a former football player like Elway, would that make you respect him more? Good, I like that he's arrogant. No one likes a fucking pushover in that high level type of position. He makes a big splash because he wants to improve the team, not to get his name in the papers. I didn't see anyone complain here when we got a SB MVP for a 5th rounder, or Braylon for a 3rd rounder, or got Favre out of retirement for nothing. So you rip him for this year (rightly so he deserves to be ripped), because he went away from the team chemistry HE implemented in 2009 and 2010. He is above average and if you don't think so I dare you to name 15 general managers you'd prefer over him, because I'd bet everything I own that you can't.
Nice smart ass. So I suppose you've never had a post freeze and you hit submit again because you didn't think the first one went thru? Roll your eyes up your ass. No one' saying that Nnamdi's not a good player. He just wasn't a need, but rather a major luxury, and would have tied up entirely too much money in the CB position, and more than likely would have caused problems with Revis. The team had other needs that went unaddressed. In the process of pursuing Nnamdi, the team lost some of its own that hurt the chemistry and depth. They had tons of money to throw at Nnamdi, but not enough to re-sign Bray, sign a FA S, or sign veteran OL depth? Signing Nnamdi was a Madden-type move. Nice in fantasy land, but not realistic.
And just how did Nnamdi work out for the Eagles this year? uh huh... Frankly, as much as I want to strangle Cro for the bonehead plays he commits, I'd still take him over OVERPAYING a CB who is NOT Revis. Aso isn't even on the same stratosphere is Revis, tbh. oh and I'd rather roll my eyes up Kate Upton's ass but Mark beat me to it.
With regard to his drafts, it will take me some time to put the facts together, but I will respond. For starters, check out this link and read posts #72 & #73. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=70213&page=4 Belicheat is horrible at running the draft. Thank God for it, because with all the draft picks he has to work with he could have created a dynasty that the Jets could never even dream of touching. He's as bad in one extreme as Tanny is in the opposite extreme. I have no problems with trading up for Revis and Harris. That was a bad draft overall, and he maximized the draft by getting those two players. The problem is there have been too many drafts where he has had to trade up to get a good player, rather than staying put or trading down, acquiring an extra pick or picks and still getting very good players who contribute. With regards to studying under Parcells, that is no feather in his cap. I detest Parcells. He's a jackass and he sucked as a GM. He further screwed the team royally by walking away and then recommending Groh and Bradway. No one's saying that the GM should be a pushover, but he doesn't have to be arrogant. It's not either/or. I totally disagree about the motivation behind his big splash moves. I think they're totally about his ego and making himself look smarter than others. I can't even name 15 other GMs because I don't follow other teams closely. I follow the Jets. I do pay attention to the drafts, and see that some of the other teams find talent in every round and find ways to find talent cheaply. They don't create holes on the team by constantly trading up year in and year out, yet almost never balancing that by trading down to acquire draft picks. They don't ignore positions (especially positions of need) year in and year out, yet upgrade positions that already have depth with the picks they do have.
Maybe we misunderstood each other's intent. You seem to make my point for me. Nnamdi certainly didn't put the Eagles over the top this season, and I agree that I'd rather have Cro (as much as I detest him) than overpay for Nnamdi or anyone else.
when you compare the pats record against the jets, don't tell me that tanny is a good GM. as his mentor used to say ' you are exactly what your record says you are'. we can't even win the division, let alone the super bowl.:sad:
Exactly. In a year we were $8Mm under the salary cap that idiot had each of them take a $1MM cut in return for guaranteeing their full contracts for next year. In the real world that alone would be career ending.
Keller was a horrible pick. The value was not there, especially when you consider that we traded up into the 1st round -- we gave up our 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder -- to get him. NE got Gronkowski in the 2nd and Hernandez in the 4th. NO plucked Jimmy Graham at the end of the 3rd round. The 2008 draft is enough evidence and cause to fire our GM: http://www.jetkingdom.com/fans/jake/new-york-jets-2008-draft-review Of those great talents Tannebaum acquired in the draft, Keller is the only guy who had any career to speak of.
