Getting Manning, keeping Sanchez would cure what ails Jets:

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  1. jetsown22

    jetsown22 New Member

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    Hahahahah are you the Milf Sanchez is seeing on the side? Your crazy to even say this. Other then last season when has Manning ever been injured? Sanchez wishes he is as durable as Manning in his nfl career, thats even if Sanchez has a Nfl career which is highly skeptical at this point.
     
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    Defense would also not be gassed up in the 4th quarter after Sanchez going 3 and out every drive.
     
  3. laxin

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    What is guaranteeing that Manning's neck holds up? A 35/36 year old going into next season coming off of a major neck surgery is not something I would want to take such a huge risk on.

    What if game three he gets injured? And the only holes we filled were in the draft and only drafted a lineman and say a WR? We still have holes to fill and are in a worse situation than we would have been.

    We have to build a TEAM. Not a one man show. A team. Bringing in Manning would put us in a similar situation that the Colts are in this year...

    Signing him would mean we would have 30 million dollars invested in the QB position and combine that with the holes that have to filled and thats just not smart.
     
  4. jetsown22

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    What is the guarantee that Sanchez ever develops into a Nfl capable Qb? Cutting Sanchez saves us 8.5 mil next year while Manning will not want more then 12-15 mil how is that 30 mil? What is the guarantee that when Sanchez gets sacked 40 times next year his neck will hold up or his knee or his head?
     
  5. bigmehl

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    Ok, so in the best case Manning is cut and signed by the Jets. In your scenario of keeping both him and Sanchez ,what exactly is Manning paid, I'm sure he's not signing a 1 year 5 Mil contract.

    And by signing him we're taking away money from upgrading other positions. So Does Manning make Hunter block better, Does he make Mulligan into a Pro Bowler ( If you answer yes your totally clueless). Does he make Santonio and Plax run faster and better routes. With the maning signing it probably means we lose depth in other areas and are left with status quo at LB & Safety. So in reality what "lot of problems" does maning fix.
     
  6. jetsown22

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    Manning over Sanchez is a huge upgrade, Qb is the most important position in the Nfl by far, get it got it good? Also you know what makes Manning and Brady great Qb's they don't care about primary receivers they spread the ball around. When is the last time Sanchez had completions to 7 different receivers in his career like Brady and Peyton have had so many times. Peyton doesn't need Larry Fitgerald to look good.
     
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  7. bigmehl

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    Exactly, we'd be back in the position Parcells left us in when he bailed - cap hell.
     
  8. abyzmul

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    Can Manning play safety or rush the passer? Cuz that's there that money will be going otherwise.
     
  9. jetsown22

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    Offense virtually last in every category while defense is top 10. Whats a bigger need? Also our defense would be virtually 1st in every category if the offense wasn't going 3 and out every drive and the defense was on the field more then the offense. Addition by subtraction. I guess the Sanchez supporters are running out of excuses though as expected.
     
  10. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    That is such an awful comparison. I can't tell if you're a pats troll or seriously this stupid every time I read your comments. You just compared a guy who is not even in the league anymore to a QB who led his team to 2 AFCCGs. His TD int ratio has improved every year and so has his yards totals. All this with a run game that has gotten worse every year as has his O line.

    Manning today is not better because he can't even play. If Manning was perfectly healthy and somehow with contracts we can make it work sure but the odds of that happening are not good enough to throw away Sanchez.
     
  11. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Jets are 8th in TOP. Any other completely wrong facts? You say Manning doesn't care about primary receivers? Do you even watch football. He had amazing weapons his entire time as QB of the Colts. Clark>Keller. Wayne and Harrison are better than receivers than we have had since Sanchez has been here.
     
  12. jetsown22

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    Who the fuck says so are you his doctor? Manning at 50% is better then Sanchez. Sanchez didn't lead his team to shit how many times do I have to say this he never once threw for over 200 yards, 196 186 180 and a pathetic 100. If you want a winner lets trade Revis and 2 1st rounders for Tebow.
     
  13. bigmehl

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    And when he's laying on his back because we didn't upgrade our OL because of money - how many recievers is he spreading the ball to. How many times did the Jets go four wide this year, there's a reason for that - 1) We have depth issues at reciever and 2) with the poor OL performance max protect was used a lot more then we'd have like to. Putting a 35 year old , injured , imobile QB behind Wayne Hunter is like asking a blind man to play in traffic on the Grand Central Parkway.
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I don't know what he gets paid. The premise laid out by the article is that we keep both. In this case, it's not "my" scenario, even though it's one I've entertained before. Two key factors in what he gets paid are that he wants rings more the dollars and that his value is less coming off 3 neck surgeries.

    We would have less money to spend in free agency, yes.

    First off, Hunter should be upgraded regardless of this scenario. There are some guys we could target early in the draft for that.

    Manning rarely takes sacks. The Colts have given up more sacks this year than 2010 and 2009 combined. Is that because there o-line went to shit or because Peyton Manning wasn't playing? He makes the right adjustments at the LOS, knows exactly what defenses are doing, makes quick decisions and has a very quick release. All those things lead to less sacks.

    God couldn't make Mulligan a probowler, but I'll bet Manning could make Keller one.

    No, but you better bet your ass he demands they run there routes better every day in practice and especially on game day. He would demand respect from them that Sanchez doesn't. And if they didn't, he'd made Kerley into the next Austin Collie. He would also hit them in stride when the are open and throw them open when they're not far more often than Sanchez currently does.

    Our defense would be dangerous playing with a lead on a regular basis.
     
  15. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't take a doctor to realize someone who has missed an entire season and offseason from last year is hurt you retard. Ill take someone who has shown talent with his entire career ahead of him over a QB who can't even get on the field and is already being replaced by a QB that hasn't even been drafted yet.
     
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    Can you just please explain how you think we should acquire the player? The Colts can't afford to trade him no more than we could afford the price they'd ask. If we're expecting he'll be cut and hit the open market, how can you even begin to guess his price? He's averaging $23 million over the next two years. You're thinking he'd just jump at the Jets offer of half that because they're the Jets? You don't think an owner like Daniel Snyder would back a dump truck full of money on his front lawn? And that's just one owner. Those goofballs in Miami seem to think they're only a quarterback away, as well.
     
  17. jetsown22

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    27th in ypg, 21st in passing, 22nd in rushing. Thats last 2 me. And Wayne and Adai were shit before Manning got a hold of them so was Clark. Harrison I will give you. While Sanchez has managed to turn 2 superbowl winners and good receivers in their careers absolute dreck.
     
  18. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Who are these good receivers Sanchez has had? Cotchery cut and done nothing in Pitt. Braylon thrown away to SF where he was just cut. Keller who underachieves every year. Santonio who was traded for nothing by a SB winning team where he is underachieving.
     
  19. jetsown22

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    Unlike your fanboy Sanchez, manning has ability to read the defense and gets rid of the ball quick or audibles.
     
  20. Br4d

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    Manning would be a horrible trap for this franchise. He hasn't played in a year, he's 36 years old and he has a congenital neck injury. He'd cost a lot of talent in the form of future picks. He'd also eat up a huge amount of cap space for the next few years as a result of the deal that he forces to come to the Jets.

    Bringing him to NY would be as pathetic a move as the LA Rams bringing Namath to town at the end of his career.
     

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