Agree to disagree. I consider your standards for "very good" to be very lax. Sanchez is below average to average at best in my humble opinion. If you would agree with me on that (which I'd say half the fan base does), then you should agree that grabbing a QB early is actually a very good move because of the rookie wage rates rather than overpaying on a FA QB. However, your solution involves none of these scenarios because all you're doing is countering every "Sanchez hater's" claims because he's a "very good" QB. We were asked what we would do. That's what I would do. And for you to say that no draft pick could be better is ridiculous. What round was Montana drafted in? What about Brady? There are diamonds in the rough. They're rare, I admit that. But to say I'm never drafting a QB because I'm in love with Sanchez and no one could ever be better is ignorant. My solution isn't necessarily a solution, but more of a potential escape route. I don't think Sanchez is or will ever be a franchise QB. What I'm saying is that I wouldn't be opposed to chasing a high upside QB in the draft relatively early because a) there's upside, b) Sanchez really isn't that good, and c) it's cheaper than in the past. I don't see the downside to this OTHER than that pick could be used on another position (which could also bomb) AND it takes that warm fuzzy feeling away from all Sanchez lovers that he might not be the future. As I said, I'm just proposing to not put all our eggs in the Sanchez basket if there are options. I'm not saying cut the guy outright because we just drafted a QB in Round 3!
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Does Tebow regularly drop 30+ on teams, because that's what it would have taken to beat the Colts that day.
alright, seeing this post is at least an attempt at being civil. the jets are screwed somewhat because of their rash drafting of sanchez when they had very little to go on because he only played one year of college. you can go back and find my post because i stated so back then when he was drafted. i was against the sanchez move from the start, go back and check. waste of time. as it is, the jets have screwed themselves and have no choice but to go with sanchez next year while also bringing in a vet that can compete and hopefully take the job from him. i was never quoted anywhere on this board they he should be dumped this year and someone else take his place, because after all, it's too late for that and the jets are stuck with him, but with the hope a vet might be signed to compete/take the job. for the future, the jets need to go back to the drawing board looking for their franchise qb, because with what we've seen from sanchez thru 3 years, he's not likely the answer. you can always hope for that big drew brees jump and he all of a sudden gets it, but i wouldn't bet much $ on that prayer. odds say no chance. one thing for certain, this is a qb driven league and without a quality qb a team is screwed. keep drafting one till they get it right. and maybe we've seen that tanny isn't the personel guy that should be picking these players!
I'm bringing them in to be backups with the hope and expectation that Sanchez is the starter and that he improves on what he did last year. But I want there to be someone to push Sanchez and if Sanchez either gets hurt or regresses then I want a better backup than McElroy or Brunell.
Give credit where credit's due. The guy's been a different player in the playoffs. But take away backing into the playoffs two years in a row, and we never even see that. I think if you take away those playoff performances, and he would have already been run out of town. He's been bad in the regular season, flat out bad in years 1 and 2. His playoff performances were his saving graces, and I wouldn't take that away. He sure didn't get them there, but he certainly did take them to the championship game.
It's an argument suited for message boards and talk radio obviously. WE will never know if any of those journeyman QB's would have raised a lombardi trophy if they had had the talent around them that Sanchez had his first 2 years.. Nor do we know just how bad (or good) Sanchez would've been if he was on their teams with the lack of talent around him the last 2 years.
I haven't really been giving him credit for winning those games. Remember, the Jets won them in spite of him!!
I haven't read the whole 12 pages of this thread but I knew this gonna be a great thread when I read that someone would rather have Jason Campbell.
Come on. How can you make this argument? Tebow has won 1 game this year where both his running game and defense failed him (at Minnesota). Every other game, yea Tebow makes the 4th qtr GW drive, but his defense and RB put him in that situation. No different than Sanchez. When his run game and defense have failed him he's been obliterated (Detroit, NE)
...no Tebow seems to have a knack for winning games that his team is in late in the game. But, I don't want to get into a Tebow/Sanchez debate, I like Tebow less than Sanchez presently.
Thats fine, you can make that argument. Least you can prove thats somewhat true, your other statement you couldn't.
While I DONT think Sanchez needs to go, IF he did need to I don't think this is the answer. In an earlier post on about page 3 I listed all the QBs drafted in the top 50 picks over the last 5-6 years. There were about 3-4 of them I would play over Sanchez. Thats a very low percentage of successful QBs coming out of the draft right now. IF Sanchez isn't the right guy (I don't believe this) then I don't have any confidence in our GM and Draft Team to pick another one to "groom"
Do you really think Sanchez needs to be pushed? In this market? He is probably one of the most scrutinized, criticized, players in the NFL already. I can see bringing in a vet as the back up in case he is injured, but I don't think there are any players under any more pressure to perform than Sanchez and it has been that way for three years now. I don't think a QB competition does anything to help him. In fact, that would be the worst thing the Jets could do. You might as well trade him because he will be ruined, if he isn't already considering the constant criticism of his play and the ridiculous physical pounding he took this year.
your right about tanny not being the guy to draft a qb, sanchez is proof of that! as far as your list of qb's, there were more than 3-4m better than sanchez, you just haven't learned to take off the green glasses yet.
The 8th post in this thread says that "Jason Campbell will do." Meaning Jason Campbell will do in replacement of Sanchez. Sounds like it to me.
Not true. One player doesn't show proof of anything, regardless if Sanchez was an elite QB or a scrub. Revis is an elite CB, does that mean Tanny is a genius at being able to draft cornerbacks? No. Same goes for any position. With that said, Tanny isn't a player evaluator, the rest of the draft team is; bradway, clinksdales (sp), etc.
