For those who wants Sanchez gone...

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  1. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    All,

    First of all let me start out by saying I am no football expert nor claim to be one in a group.

    I think Sanchez has progressed well over the last three years especially with the rotating receiving cores, o-line, and running backs. Yes, he still makes dumbass mistakes that make you scratch your head, but he still shows sign of brilliance. Sanchez is also one tough sob for the # of hits he's taken today. Personally, I didn't think he would survive the Ravens game and time & time again, he's gotten up after taking vicious hits due to our o-line or not moving well in the pocket.

    For the folks who want Sanchez gone, who would you want to replace him with? Whoever you pick to replace him with, what would be your expectations of the new qb?

    I would just like to hear/read people's thoughts.

    Thanks.

    -Jets Fan
     
  2. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    Replace him with a rookie who is fearless and hungry to make a name for himself.

    I'm tired of how nervous Sanchez looks before games. I am tired of how jittery he gets in the pocket at the mere thought of pressure. I am tired of how he has these "big hands" but fumbles all the fucking time. I'm tired of his deep passes being 10 yards too short or too far. I am tired of the juvenile behavior on the sidelines and off the field. I am tired of him partying the night before games or right after losses.
     
  3. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Schottenheimer is a master QB maker, right? :lol:

    Let's see if Brady looks confident and authoritative if we can hit him 25 times a game. (Or is it how he looked during the playoff exit last year?)
     
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  5. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    ok...what would be your expectation of this fearless rookie?
     
  6. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    So, start over so you can request this same thing 3 years from now?
     
  7. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    Bingo.

    I love those clamoring for McElroy. Reminds me of the 'tards that wanted Pennington Benched for Kellen back in 2007.

    Ahhh, I still remember sitting in the stands and listening to some whiny drunk girl screaming - "Pennington sucks! Put Clemens in!!!11!1!"

    Now the tards have just changed the name - "Sanchez Sucks! Put McElroy in!!!11!1!"

    McElroy = short Pennington.
     
  8. Jet Blue

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    Not a lot of options at this point..

    Realistically, those of us who have accepted that Sanchez will not be "The Guy"
    can only hope for a decent FA to compete with Sanchez and come in when Snachez again leads a stagnant offense next year, excuses or not...

    I don't see a lot of names but, even a Jason Cambell will do.

    Then they really have to study the later round Draft QB's and take another swing there.
    This draft has a lot of QB talent so, maybe one you really like falls to round 2.

    Then after next years Offensive disaster and trying to ground and pound and cover up a Panzy QB you just cut ways and do it again - maybe go hard in round 1 for a rookie who actually has College experience, has seen snow and has respectable size and arm strength for the North east.
     
  9. joesmoe39

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    no doubt schotty isn't helping any but it's not all because of him either.

    sure we pressured brady and made him look bad, that one game! overall, he's everything sanchez is not.

    sanchez has been horrible this year. most of the games the offense was non existant the first half. jets were the kings of three and out's.

    schotty has been bad. oline has been bad, and sanchez has been bad. hell, even rex has taken a step back it seems. one would have expected him to relieve schotty of his duties at the half of saturdays game, but he was unable to do so because even he himself is an offensive liability.

    all and all, from tanny drafting and team depth, they took a major step back this year. from superbowl contender to middle of the pack wannabe's!
     
  10. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez is tied for 2nd in the AFC with 24 touchdown passes this year. People are acting like he is completely terrible. There are good things to work with in year 4. Schottenheimer needs to go. He holds back the entire team.
     
  11. laxin

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    Or they have this unrealistic "idea" of trading for Manning or trading up for Luck. Two of the dumbest ideas that any Jets fan could have.

    I can understand that some people dont believe he will be Elite or be a top tier QB, but to this point, he's produced as well as I would expect any 3rd year QB given what he is- OC who we all know is garbage, a revolving door at WR and RB, and a decreasing OL that cant hold a passrush for more than 3 seconds.

    As someone said before, the only option that wont ruin this franchise in the long run by giving up 4 first round picks, is to sign a Vet. Let him compete with Sanchez and push him.
     
  12. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Sanchez definitely has flaws but he's developing. Growing pains are difficult, especially in New York.

    Bring in Norv Turner for OC (same roots as Schotty so you aren't going a completely different direction on offense), sign Vincent Jackson or Braylon Edwards, re-sign Plaxico and keep the super consultant on board. Draft a rookie WR early too if the value is there. Let's see if he can take a big step in year 4.

    I'm a big Sanchez supporter and still believe he can work through these growing pains. I still wouldn't be opposed to scooping up Peyton if he is cut and willing to work at a salary that enables us to keep Sanchez and let him learn behind the best.
     
  13. jilozzo

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    well its pretty clear by now that he wont be carrying this team anytime soon. rather the team is going to have to carry him to the SB.

    unfortunately the jets aren't good enough now to carry anyone to the SB so the QB issues become magnified that much more.

    until we improve the surrounding cast we might as well stop looking to change - just to change.
     
  14. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    Names?

    It gets so tiring hearing people call for some mysterious rookie or FA to replace Sanchez and never actually offer an idea of exactly who this might be. Do you expect this fearless and hungry rookie to take us to the SB in his rookie year?
     
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    Toughest S.O.B. I've ever met.

    I'll give Sanchez a season with a new OC, if he's still mediocre -- then it's SEC QB, McElroy time.
     
  16. The Notorious J.E.T.S

    The Notorious J.E.T.S Well-Known Member

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    We have to wait and see who's available in the draft. I don't have a crystal ball...but I do have DVR...and I've seen enough of Sanchez.
     
  17. PatsFan2003

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    Because you definitely loose several years grooming a QB I can see why some people are hestitant to give up on Sanchez but I think he's average at this point. Maybe he'll get better over time but it's far from a certainty.

    There are a ton of young QBs that already appear more reliable then Sanchez. Cam Newton, Andy Dalton to name two.
     
  18. Footballgod214

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    Funny how our expectations got the better of us.

    1- we have a QB who's played fewer games than Manning when Manning was still in fucking college. And even when Manning came out, I remember the Jets flustering Manning so bad in the playoffs that he line up under Guard. There really are no substitutes for experience, something Mark won't have until year 4,5 or 6.

    2- any QB's savior is a good running game. Mark has Greene, who's a bit injury prone and running behind a right side anchored by Wayne Hunter and a guy with two surgically repaired hips. And Greene is spelled by his grandfather in LT. There isn't one team in the NFL that fears/respects our running game enough to back off of Mark or bite more than once or twice a game on his play action.

    3- the last QB I recall taking hits as often and as vicious as Mark has taken this year was a dude name Ryan Leaf. We got a bad o-line. Bad blocking tight end(s). Bad blitz pick up in Joe McKnight. And a QB with more deep tissue bruises than the hunk of cow hanging in the cooler in Rocky 1.

    4- Holmes is indeed a pass catching threat, so much so that he's double teamed virtually EVERY snap. It's EZ to do when the guy opposite him has a bullet hole in his leg and runs a 5.3 40. It's also EZ to do when the defense ain't too worried about giving up a long running play. And it's real EZ to do when Mark is given almost no time to scan the field and throw.

    5- last, our defense has not been as dominant as in the past, which means Mark has longer fields to drive and has to score more points to win the game, all this with items 1-4 above.

    Fix the fucking team, and Mark will be Super Mario in green.

    Shotty- given the state of our o-line, running game, TE's, and receiving corps, Shotty has about 6 plays he can call and have any shot of getting yardage. We threw deep (20+ yards) 8 times against the G-men and went 2-6. The 2 'completions' were to the other team.
     
  19. jerseyjet0912

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    i give him one more year with a real OC. no improvement? pack your shit and go be a waiter at olive garden
     
  20. magic77

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    2 of the top 8 QBs picked panned out with "immediate" success. Pretty sure neither of their teams will be in the playoffs (hoping the JETS make it haha)

    You have less than a 25% chance of a top pick at QB becoming a solid starter in this league. So do you want to waste another pick on a 25% chance? Cam Newton was the #1 draft pick. So was Matt Stafford when we took Sanchez. I pray we NEVER havea #1 draft pick becuse then we have some serious issues to worry about.

    Look at the QBs taken in the past 3 years and how many you would want to start on your team right now. I'll pull the numbers shortly

    I think Sanchez can be a servicable good QB. His biggest issue IMO is his lack of progressions. He stares down that one reciever and if he doesn't try to force it to him, then he looks tot he one right next to him. He does not prgress to the other side of the field like the 'Great' QBs do. But theres been about 5 elite QBs to come out of the draft in the last 10 years so what does that say
     
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