See thats the thing Schitty doesnt throw the ball, what has been proven by these numbers is that Mark is at the bottom of the of the league in almost every important stat... Sorry Edwards doesnt solve these issues either...Mark needs to dedicate more time to the NFL instead of Hollywood and with hot chicks...granted I would like to be with these chicks but Mark has a job to do and he isnt doing it
I'm not getting how focusing on one number in a sea of relevant statistics sheds any light on a quarterback's development. Schotty's shied away from throwing the deep ball this year, the Jets don't have a lot of good YAC guys, and poor pass protection has forced Sanchez to throw short more often. Kinda unrealistic to expect his YPA to increase under those circumstances.
by far the most important stat when looking at a qbs current skillset and potential is red zone percentage sanchez is killing it this year
You want to talk about unrealistic, I'm still waiting on the answer to the question I've been asking in seemingly every Sanchez related thread. What good/great QB in this league doesn't have a good receiving corps(or at least a top receiver), and why do we Jet fans expect Mark Sanchez to be a good/great QB with anything less than a top receiver or a good receiving corps?
Tell me who Brees has? Tell me other than Jennings who does Rodgers have that is better than the wideouts Mark has had? Rivers has had Gates and.....VJ held out for most of the year last year...question answered... Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, all make there wideouts better...cant say the same about Mark
who does drew brees have? is that a serious question? that team is pretty damn stacked my man. you got marcus colston, devery henderson, and i dont know if youve heard about this guy jimmy graham, but hes pretty damn good... edited for darren sproles, who i forgot about, but who also has over 1000 rushing and receiving yards and 8 tds... who does aaron rogers have better than mark? greg jennings and donald driver are better than santonio holmes and plaxico burress, jordy nelson or kerley? lol. tight end id say is a toss up between the two teams. tom brady definitely makes his wideouts better but lets be real here, right now he has an elite tight end, another good and large tight end and a great receiver in wes welker. deion branch isnt all that great but he isnt that bad either. chad has sucked this year but im sure he still gets some attention from the defense. and remember him with randy moss? the jets have never had that caliber receiver on their team. speaking of great receivers, do you remember who marvin harrison was? he just happened to be peyton mannings favorite target for how many years? none of this has anything to do with how good mark sanchez is. he has the pieces to get it done, and when he is put in the position to get it done this year, ie the redzone, he has been getting it done quite well. moving the chains is another story. but at the same time, you see myriad of qbs being able to move the ball down the field only to come up short at the goal line. if mark had no accuracy, how could he throw for what 24 tds is it? factor in how few of those have been big plays with monstrous runs after the catch, and you got yourselves a pretty good qb at the tender young age of 25. hes fucking 25. he played one year in college. and hes 8th in scoring in the nfl for quarterbacks. his ypc suck because schotty calls 3-7 yard routes. his completion percentage sucks because schotty only calls 3-7 yard routes. not only is that easy for an nfl defensive backfield to defend all the time, its hard to complete throws to guys that are just blanketed to people who are just staring at the qb ready to jump in front of the receiver. if mark telegraphs his throws schotty telegraphs the routes by running the same goddamn plays week in and week out. there are no variations, just strict timing routes that suck because if they dont work they end up bringing all the defenders together and then you have a pick or a throw into triple coverage because the guy didnt start off that way but since the play broke down due to the o line being complete garbage it ended up that way. the point of any of this, is simply to say that mark sanchez certainly does not suck, and while he may not be the best qb in the league, he is capable of scoring with the best of em. that is not something you throw away because the offense as a whole is failing to move the chains. if the offense couldnt move the sticks then couldnt score, well, ok. but for fucks sake, top ten in scoring.
I was answering Masons question...so in saying Jimmy Graham did he play much last year nope and Brees still was a beast..Colston is always freakin hurt so he doesnt count and Brees spreads the ball around so damn much....Henderson wow, if you think he is better than Holmes/Plax than something is wrong... and sorry but Rodgers has Jennings....Driver is older than my grandfather and Nelson hasnt done anything til this year...Holmes did what with Pitt and Plax did what with the NYG and Pitt.....enough said.. everyone wants to blame Schitty and the Oline for Mark when Mark plays a bigger role than any of them
colston doesnt count why? hes only had one year of his career when he didnt hit 1000 yards before graham they had shockey nelson hasnt done anything til this year, so that makes him worthless right now since the season is almost over anyway... driver is old, only really began to fall off last year though, was still very good for rogers first 2 seasons. plax has been in jail for like 2 years since pitt and nyg. holmes was superbowl mvp, comparing their production between systems would seem to suggest that schotty might not know how to use them.
Colston is on the same/close to the same level as Holmes as far as ability...Colston has been made due to Brees... Shockey hasnt been good for years...he sucked last year for the Saints Driver didnt do much last year at all, neither did Nelson...my point is that Rodgers has made Nelson better I know Plax has been in jail my point is when he was in Pitt/NYG he did just fine...with Shelie and Big Ben...yes, Schiity cant use them right but Mark doesnt help at all
I can guarantee you that they aren't using a top pick on a QB. The kid is going to get at least next year, and potentially more, to show what he can do. You don't "spark" a team by rehauling it entirely.
Are you kidding? Manning could be one hit and done, and you think he could lead us to the Super Bowl with that line?
Are you kidding me? Colston doesn't count? Is this what you guys have to resort to? Not "counting" receivers? Brees has Colston, Graham, Sproles, Moore, Henderson and Meachem. That's a group that is only second to Green Bay's group of Finley, Jones, Jennings, Nelson and Driver. Not only do both groups have a #1 receiver(Colston, Jennings), but they have reliable players that compliment each other, and two of the best Tight Ends in football(Graham is the best). I ask what good/great QBs don't have a good receiving corps, and you post the two best in the league.
I understand the disgust with a bad OC, the Steelers have one of the worst of the worst in Arians but nobody questions Bens elite status.......Sanchez just isn't that good. While the concept is valid, including Ben in that statement is foolish! Ben was 14-1 in his first year and won the super bowl in his second year.
The two above groups are miles better than The Average Group(my coined term for our receiving corps). They have prime 1000 yard players up the ass, we've got an old and slow, bullet hole in the leg, straight out of prison Burress, and the very average, very overpaid, borderline cancer, questionable hands, can't get open, can't get separation Santonio Holmes. I don't even want to mention our terrible OC and rapidly regressing running game with two backs who have trouble catching simple passes out of the backfield. TAG is exactly what it is, an average group of guys who all came together to form a super team of average players. While young players like Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford are playing catch with the likes of Calvin Johnson, Roddy White, and Julio Jones, Sanchez is playing catch with a washed up former prison inmate with a damn bullet in his leg, and a guy who should donate his entire check to charity, because he's done nothing in his career to warrant even the sniffing of a top 10 receiver's sweaty jock strap, let alone 50 million dollars. 50 million dollar #2 receiver.
Your only evidence that Holmes sucks is that you keep saying he sucks. While two can play at that. I watch every game and I see him performing at the same level he has the past few years- he consistenly gets open when he gets single coverage but he usually draws heavy coverage. The celebration penalties and the fumble suck but he's way better than you're giving him credit for. Sanchez can't find the second receiver and Schotty has run out of tricks to get the primary receiver option. That (and the fact that after Keller and Holmes the receivers do suck) is the team's problem, not Holmes.
